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Originally posted by steveknows
Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by dilly1
I love it how gullible people truly believe some visitor or a distant planet would want or care to communicate with earth.....these people must assume humans are so special,,,,ahhhh
Why not? We send signals into space.. There could be many alien races out there, that are at a similar stage of evolution to us..
Yes but our signals have, relatively speaking, just left earth. The first signal ever made is only just over 100 years old. Space is big. Really really big. Even "if" there is an advanced race not too far away it would still take thousands of years for our signals to reach them.
Let's not forget, that around 1908, Tesla sent an extremely large "signal" into space. He probably scared the bejesus out of any extraterrestrial floating around out there for a little over 100 light years now.
edit on 6-1-2012 by steveknows because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by NightFlight
Originally posted by steveknows
Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by dilly1
I love it how gullible people truly believe some visitor or a distant planet would want or care to communicate with earth.....these people must assume humans are so special,,,,ahhhh
Why not? We send signals into space.. There could be many alien races out there, that are at a similar stage of evolution to us..
Yes but our signals have, relatively speaking, just left earth. The first signal ever made is only just over 100 years old. Space is big. Really really big. Even "if" there is an advanced race not too far away it would still take thousands of years for our signals to reach them.
Let's not forget, that around 1908, Tesla sent an extremely large "signal" into space. He probably scared the bejesus out of any extraterrestrial floating around out there for a little over 100 light years now.
edit on 6-1-2012 by steveknows because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by miniatus
I find it interesting that it says the signal is terrestrial in origin ( radio interference ) and yet there are 3 pages of replies =)
If I've understood correctly, there really isn't any news here..
Originally posted by Twelvemonkeyss
reply to post by steveknows
Agreed, even if there is comparable or greater intelligence out there, they're not that close. This place is HUGE. Even so- just by sending these signals over airwaves, does that mean they are also sent into space? Traveling?
Originally posted by MissSmartypants
reply to post by Vitchilo
The signals below are undoubtedly examples of terrestrial radio frequency interference (RFI).
He's saying this particular signal that's being discussed is from earth(terrestrial) and that the same signal is coming from two different objects, which is what tells them it's a radio signal from earth....I don't know all the particulars but they do. He's saying if they do receive an ET signal it will look like these narrow earth signals...only they'll only be coming from one location.
"Why not" you say,,,,mmmm??
Why not learn how difficult it is for anything( spaceships(human or alien) or radio frequency ) to travel throughout an infinite space.
The fact that you say "why not" it is the equivalent of a christian rebounding with the delusional "faith" jargon.
Misterlondon all you have is hope. And I hope your hope keeps you grounded. Because right now you're way out there.
he Arecibo message was broadcast into space a single time via frequency modulated radio waves at a ceremony to mark the remodeling of the Arecibo radio telescope on 16 November 1974.[1] It was aimed at the globular star cluster M13 some 25,000 light years
the Arecibo message was more a demonstration of human technological achievement than a real attempt to enter into a conversation with extraterrestrials.
Yes but our signals have, relatively speaking, just left earth. The first signal ever made is only just over 100 years old. Space is big. Really really big. Even "if" there is an advanced race not too far away it would still take thousands of years for our signals to reach them.
Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by dilly1
"Why not" you say,,,,mmmm??
Why not learn how difficult it is for anything( spaceships(human or alien) or radio frequency ) to travel throughout an infinite space.
The fact that you say "why not" it is the equivalent of a christian rebounding with the delusional "faith" jargon.
Misterlondon all you have is hope. And I hope your hope keeps you grounded. Because right now you're way out there.
I can assure you my friend.. my feet are firmly on the ground...
And it is not that difficult to send a message through space.. in fact we have already done it..
he Arecibo message was broadcast into space a single time via frequency modulated radio waves at a ceremony to mark the remodeling of the Arecibo radio telescope on 16 November 1974.[1] It was aimed at the globular star cluster M13 some 25,000 light years
the Arecibo message was more a demonstration of human technological achievement than a real attempt to enter into a conversation with extraterrestrials.
en.wikipedia.org...
The only problem is the time it takes to travel these distances.. and the time to receive a reply..
One of the reasons the WOW signal was so highly debated is because it was transmitted on the hydrogen frequency, which is the ideal frequency to transmit on if someone wanted to get noticed.
Not forgetting our current understanding of the universe is still in a relative stage of infancy..
Originally posted by Misterlondon
Yes but our signals have, relatively speaking, just left earth. The first signal ever made is only just over 100 years old. Space is big. Really really big. Even "if" there is an advanced race not too far away it would still take thousands of years for our signals to reach them.
Not necessarily thousands of years.. according to einsteins theory nothing is faster then the speed of light.
waves travel at the speed of light because waves have the same characteristics as light.
(do a search for wave/particle duality for an explanation)
Proxima Centauri, part of the Alpha Centuri system is our closest star is approx 4.37 light years away.. which means it takes the light (waves) 4.37 years to reach us..
of course we have to account for the signal deteriorating because of the many obstacles in space that radio frequencies must pass through like interstellar gases, UV radiation from sun's and even asteroid fields that would hinder this transmission.
Where do I begin???? The "WOW" signal is NOT proof of anything. In fact its probably a hoax.
How in the world can you say "its is not that difficult to send messages through space"
and then admit the problem it takes for a signal to travel long distances.
To add, that you are firmly aware(lol) the universe is still a relative stage of infancy
How can you do that???
How can you logically allow your mind to operate that way??
Talking about "oxymoron". But in this case let's just take out "oxy" and leave good 'ol moron alone for this shocking post by YOU
You say Hydrogen Frequency?? You mean using a theoretical theory,, right?? You mean a theory based in the quantum level?? Do you even know what the quantum level entails??. Do you even know how difficult it is to do anything in the quantum level??
This low frequency using hydrogen atoms is a fantasy. But let's just say your alien fantasy came true: You made contact. Now what? ??
I know what !! You do nothing,,, because you can't do anything about it. Space is too big and we will never grasp the amount of "new physic" needed to even contemplate space travel in an infinite universe.
I have said it a billion times in other threads(and no one wants to accept the cold hard truth).
You need new physics to do anything of the sort. We need to understand lightspeed for short travels. We need to understand wormholes for long travels. And we need to change our entire medical approach to achieving anti-aging(immortality). Without those impossible points, we will never get to travel in space.
So who cares about what SETI is doing . Its a waste of money and time.
So I suggest you stop ignoring your smarts and erase your fantasy of aliens. Its making you dumb. Try using ONLY logic.
You start off super optimistic then end with some realistic phrase. Why do you even bother to post. Its not like you're going to accomplish anything.
Sure your feet aren't instead hovering over firm-real-practical ground ???
First grow some thick skin. Its not my fault your completely delusional with "alien stuff". And I love how you dissect my paragraphs with your childish "cut 'n paste".
Originally posted by Misterlondon
reply to post by dilly1
Where do I begin???? The "WOW" signal is NOT proof of anything. In fact its probably a hoax.
The WOW signal has been neither proven or disproven.. Want to show me some evidence which proves this is a hoax?
or was it just a fleeting comment in your obvious uncontrollable rage?
How in the world can you say "its is not that difficult to send messages through space"
Because we have already done it..
and then admit the problem it takes for a signal to travel long distances.
Those are he problems we face..
To add, that you are firmly aware(lol) the universe is still a relative stage of infancy
If you read it correctly it states WE are in a stage of infancy in terms of our understanding.. doesnt mean another race more developed than ours hasn't overcome these problems.
How can you do that???
How can you logically allow your mind to operate that way??
Talking about "oxymoron". But in this case let's just take out "oxy" and leave good 'ol moron alone for this shocking post by YOU
This is completely unnecessary and rude..
You say Hydrogen Frequency?? You mean using a theoretical theory,, right?? You mean a theory based in the quantum level?? Do you even know what the quantum level entails??. Do you even know how difficult it is to do anything in the quantum level??
This low frequency using hydrogen atoms is a fantasy. But let's just say your alien fantasy came true: You made contact. Now what? ??
I say the hydrogen frequency (1420 megahertz) because it is the most abundant element in the known universe and the one most likely to be used should someone try and send a signal through space..
And you talk of theories? almost all our knowledge of the universe started as a theory..
I know what !! You do nothing,,, because you can't do anything about it. Space is too big and we will never grasp the amount of "new physic" needed to even contemplate space travel in an infinite universe.
Im fully aware of our problems with space travel..
Even without travelling to them.. just knowing we are not alone as an intelligent civilisation would be earth shattering..
I have said it a billion times in other threads(and no one wants to accept the cold hard truth).
well we can already see you have a thing for wild exaggeration.. you have only made 740 odd posts..
You need new physics to do anything of the sort. We need to understand lightspeed for short travels. We need to understand wormholes for long travels. And we need to change our entire medical approach to achieving anti-aging(immortality). Without those impossible points, we will never get to travel in space.
Here we can agree
So who cares about what SETI is doing . Its a waste of money and time.
In your opinion.
So I suggest you stop ignoring your smarts and erase your fantasy of aliens. Its making you dumb. Try using ONLY logic.
Logic tells me that the sheer size of the universe and number of galaxies and stars.. what happened on earth cannot be an isolated incedent..
having said that there is no fantasy about aliens.. just a hope we are not alone..
Originally posted by miniatus
I find it interesting that it says the signal is terrestrial in origin ( radio interference ) and yet there are 3 pages of replies =)
If I've understood correctly, there really isn't any news here..
Originally posted by ConspiracyTruth
To all the people who feel that this thread is the perfect opportunity to downplay the possibility of ET life communicating with us...
You're totally full of it. You want to feel more intelligent, less delusional, than your peers... but you fail to see how ARROGANT you are!!! We know very little of Outer Space, except that it's bigger and has been around longer than we can possibly imagine. According to official sources, we've only been first-hand to the MOON. We are in the INFANCY of space travel, and ALREADY, we've found that alien life could have existed on Mars and could be supported on some nearby moons. The STUPIDITY and ARROGANCE of people who limit their imaginations about subject matter, that by definition, cannot possibly fit into them... is astonishing to me.
We are still learning about our own planet, and to think that ANYONE of us on these boards has any CLUE as to what is possible as far as ET life goes, and that includes how much ET life is out there, how advanced it is, and whether or not it's interacted with our planet in the present or the past... is RETARDED, in my opinion. We could be the only intelligent beings in the universe, or we could be one of MILLIONS - we just frankly don't know!!! Didn't Percival Lowell get criticized to no end for believing life was once on Mars and that there were canals? Was he delusional, or simply a scientist looking for clues of something that could be possible, and if discovered and acknowledge, could evolve humanity pretty darned quick?
There is nothing wrong with being scientifically curious and hopeful, that is a HEALTHY tendency of the mind. Going on forums to burst people's bubbles is just a way to stroke your own egos, and is probably very unhealthy! I would never waste my time going on some Christian message board and telling people to stop believing in God. I'm not religious and find it weird to hook yourself onto one particular religion but at the end of the day, there's a GAZILLION more things we don't know than we do know... and that's why there's so much room for spirituality (however it is expressed) and hope in things that seem impossible to us today, that's what makes us uniquely human and uniquely successful on this planet we call Earth.
Originally posted by miniatus
I find it interesting that it says the signal is terrestrial in origin ( radio interference ) and yet there are 3 pages of replies =)
If I've understood correctly, there really isn't any news here..
The original article was entirely misleading, it was only updated later to clarify they were talking about signals from Earth.edit on 7-1-2012 by ConspiracyTruth because: (no reason given)