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Where do Dark Thoughts come from?

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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:10 AM
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Did you ever get the feeling that your thoughts were not your own? I am not talking about hearing voices or feeling like your thoughts are being broadcast publicly. I am talking about having a certain series of thoughts that seem so out of touch with yourself that you wonder where they emanate from. Thoughts that once examined, have you questioning where such darkness/negativity could come from. I know there is the potential for evil in us all, but sometimes it feels like the cause could be metaphysical or even supernatural. Does anyone else have times when they experience these types of thoughts?




posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:16 AM
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I think mostly when your having physically stress , by sickness or lack of sleep , and if you have had a negative life experience could also tribute the these thoughts?



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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There is a little demon sitting on your shoulder whispering into your ear!

But seriously that is not so far from the truth - see the archonic influence.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:24 AM
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Yes, I have been more and more concerned with just these kinds of thoughts lately. I know what you mean, I don't hear voices, or anything like that, but these strange thoughts will just pop in my head that are not the type of things that I would think on my own.

I was never really aware of it too much on a concious level until I said something to my wife about a specific thought I had. I said something like "you know how we all have those kinds of thoughts sometimes" and she said, "WTF? No we don't, maybe you do". So I guess I kind of keep them to myself.

But lately I've been wondering where they come from more and more. I don't even want to give any examples of specific thoughts I have had, it would be too embarrassing. I am on the fence, but I am tending to think that they are from an external source.
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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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It's so funny that you post this. I've been having really dark thoughts that seem so out of touch with my character. I sometimes wonder if there may be a demonic entity attached to me. Make sure you get off porn if you feel you have a problem with it. That's how I think I got mine



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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It's funny you posted this, I've been wondering the same thing as of late. When it happens to me I try to analyze it, figure out what may be the source of it. I've found that a lot of the time the culprit can be TV, radio, etc. Think about it, we are bombarded day in and day out with negative stuff on the media, it's only logical that it would have some influence on our thought processes. This is why I choose not to watch TV for the most part, it seems like it doesn't do us any favors most of the time.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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I once heard that story , that if you watch porn , you can attract negative spirits, that absorb your spilling energy. creepy,Stalking ghost voyeur...



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:41 AM
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I believe TV, R18+ hardcore internet websites, R18+ games/videos, R18+ magazines and toxic psychotic medications all playing a very large part in where dark thoughts come from!
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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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We're designed to be influenced 50/50 by both sides, we're here in a testing ground. I cancel out bad thoughts, and meditate.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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Shake that darkness off my friend and tell it to get behind you. Negativity will sit heavy on a person, and the longer you let it linger the more influence it has. Pick a side, and choose wisely. I am curious as to what thoughts you are having....I understand if you do not want to share, it would just give a better idea as to what you are dealing with here. Sometimes negative is present in order to activate the positive. The good part of this is that you were able to recognize that your thoughts were not your own.

PLPL



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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Thoughts are not good or bad, its only the rational sideof the brain decides if a thought or idea is good or bad or not even worth classifying at all.

The irrational side of the brain pumps out alot of random stuff that is mostly non senseical junk.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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I think dark thoughts come from the guttural parts of the human heart, metaphysically speaking.

Before we learn or concede to the law, convincing us of good and bad, there is a part of us that considers only "me" and what vindicates or satiates one's primal desires. These desires are innate, can occur at any time, and can be solicited by any number of stimuli.

Furthermore, when Emotion, originating in the (metaphysically feeling) Heart, goes unregulated by the Will, we may find ourselves conceding to primitive/childish/selfish thoughts without regard or respect. The apex of human beingness according to Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs is self-actualization, not to be confused with self-awareness which develops in infancy. Self-actualization appropriately relates to emotional stability or one's ability to positively and productively regulate guttural emotion by mindful will.

In layman's terms: When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things. Hence the power of mindful will over that of lawless/dark thoughts.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Dark Ghost
Did you ever get the feeling that your thoughts were not your own?


Yes, I have.

There are conscious negative thoughts which are the product of fear. They are the natural defence through offence. We tend to lash out at the unknown by either dismissing it as unimportant or positioning ourselves as diametrically opposed. Such thoughts are our own and occur willfully from our ego.

Then, there are unconscious thoughts which come unbidded through instinct and are also born out of fear. No matter how much we try to overcome prejudice, it will always manifest itself each time we are confronted by something or someone we are unfamiliar with. These thoughts are a reaction based on our social structures but cannot be considered a personal thought in that they are universally shared.

Lastly, there are even more important thoughts which sometimes come to us in our dreams. They show themselves as archetypes and some examples would be drowning in deep water, running to a goal which is further away the faster you go, being lost in a strange place or being run over by a massive herd of wild turkeys.



I know there is the potential for evil in us all, but sometimes it feels like the cause could be metaphysical or even supernatural. Does anyone else have times when they experience these types of thoughts?


Life has duality. It is inescapable. For every thing in this universe, whether we are talking emotions, feelings, elements, atoms or God, we always find its opposite close at hand.

It is metaphysical, supernatural and everpresent.

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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Where do any thoughts come from? And who is it that is thinking them? And who is it that hears these thoughts? And who is it that analyses the thoughts?

Look for the thinker. Find where the thoughts appear. Are you thinking or do thoughts just appear?
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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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I recognize what you are talking about. And I have some answers to it though. I do want to mention first though that often when I give advice to friends and family its in the form of streaming. Think that for a moment that yourself becomes a medium for your greater self. It happens also when I draw, I let it flow through me as a form of creative energy.

Ok, lets step back a bit and think first about the brain. How is it that is is like it is? Well if you are not in favor of the idea of evolution then you might want to skip this part. as a visual aid I will use the development of the fetus.



Ok as you can see we all go through a truly amazing transformation from the moment the egg is inseminated in the mother.

Now another visual aid, this time of the history of building over the old.



Ok, lets head back in time to out more distand ancestors which for our example here haven't even begun walking on land. What sort of mind did these creatures have? What did they need to grasp about their environment? What sort of competition were there between them over food and mates?

Lets think of the very basic thought processes you can. A mind without introspection, reactive to its environment and to its hardwired instincts. Lets think of it as the very center of an onion.

Now we head forward some million years *poof* like that.

The descendants are now on land, with a rich landscape of plants, rocks, eventual pray and predators in more forms then before. The brain now have a couple more "modules" in place, another layer on the onion.

Think now for all these millions of millions of years, that the brain has developed in a myriad of ways, the onion now have a great deal of layers. The brain have processes going on not just from the outer layer but also from its more primitive past. It still react in a fearful way when it happens upon something its not seen before. A member of its pack that shows sign of being "different" will be pushed out because of this primeval survival instinct.

Now we get to us. We now have a great deal of processes going on. The onion now have a great deal of layers. We have the verbal language we use every day and that needs processing power and a place in the brain to do it. But we still have the instincts of our now very distant past. All this is part of your physical ego.

Now we get to the part where different processes in the brain want different things. One part of the brain want to sleep more when another part knows that if you do you will get fired for coming late (fierce social group rules).
You want to eat that pizza but you also know that it isnt good to do that (becoming fat, unhealthy, and not seen in a good light by society).

Ok now we come to the other part of this post, until now we have covered the physical ego. Now we get to the part in which I cant prove anything but will continue stream anyway. Think of your body as a part of yourself. Your vessel to see the world. outside the multiversial sphere of existence lies our true selfs.

Our true selfs exists in a state of love, like if it was light it would be like being in the center of the sun. Love is everywhere. now think for example if you lived in the hearth of the sun. You cant know color because the searing white light exists everywhere. You cant know darkness and the cold. So how would they be able experience anything else?

here comes the smart part, Like in a game they pick a character and a "theme" to play. Like they want to be a man and a doctor from a rich family dealing with his entitled existence when the poor and suffering exist around him and is treated by him. Or "play" a women living in a country hostile towards women. They are all opportunities to learn and experience. lets say the woman in this case gets murdered by her husband, she will "return". All the things that the woman learned will be part of this greater self.

Now think that for this "game" to be effective you cant remember that it is a game. You always have to begin as a "blank slate" memory wise. Skills though is a different thing entirely. Often we are drawn to that we have done "before". Another is in the form of intuition, the feel of knowing.

So we now have the ego of the body and the shard of our greater selfs in us. Often enough we come to the crossroads where you either trust your inner knowing or bend to your ego.

I could go on forever, but I wanted to finish this up by saying that it is a good idea to try to "feel" where your different thoughts come from.


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edit on 6-1-2012 by Vorlon128 because: inside the mothers belly hehe
*I am so tired*

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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:47 AM
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I agree with you, I have had 'strange thoughts' come into my head sometimes too, I am not sure wether it is me being connected to the spirit world or wether it is just confusion in the brain from too much TV, alcohol and recreational 'meditation' lol



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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don't forget the real possibility for some mental illness in some people. such as OCD or several other anxiety and panic disorders.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Are thoughts the source of ego?
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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 10:10 AM
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They certainly perpetuate or generate them!
When I was younger I had this problem a lot more, but as I am getting old and seeing who I want to be and what I want to do I see it is my mind and I can push them away.
Having faith in a creator helps, as well as meditation and relaxation. Whatever they are they can seem to be external and might be but ultimately it is you who decides to listen or give them a voice.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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Stop watching TV and you'll feel a lot better. There's a reason why they bombard you with violence and insignificance. By doing so, they significantly lower your IQ and render you mentally ill. An imbecile populace is much more easier to control.



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