If Cameron knows it happened why the hell should we all sign a petition just so he will look into it. Its like a policeman asking people on the street to all sign their names before he goes check on a crime scene.

I am getting sick of paying my hard earnt money into a system that doesn't treat us all equally, i've had to pay my tax when i got paid why cant they pay theirs. I'm seriously considering going back to being self employed and never earning ehough money again to pay tax (cough)

it really annoys me too our country just blows are tax money like no tomorrow.they spend over 70.000 on 1 single rocket and fired 1000s in Afghanistan and Iraq.each one of those rockets cost more than my house

When any nation’s monetary system is in the control of a Central Banking System , 100% of All taxes go straight to the Central Bank.

Central Banking Systems are privately owned, So, if you as a citizen are paying taxes, you are handing your money over to a Privately held Corporation.

We are not able to circumvent “hidden” taxes like, fuel tax, sales tax, and the like, but Income Tax and Social Security are within your control.

That is why the “Fair Tax” is a bad idea, that is why a “Federal Consumption Tax” is a bad idea.

I am not going to say that you should not pay taxes, this is a personal choice.

What I am going to say is if you do pay taxes you need to know who’s slave you actually are.

In the US a wage earner will work 4 months to cover the taxes withheld from your income, this income derived from your labor is given directly to the Private Corporation, The Federal Reserve.

Sound like Slavery to me.

Originally posted by TBR47
it really annoys me too our country just blows are tax money like no tomorrow.they spend over 70.000 on 1 single rocket and fired 1000s in Afghanistan and Iraq.each one of those rockets cost more than my house

But they need to fire those rockets at someone to justify buying nice shiny new ones, from the company they (and the banks) have shares in.
We don't get to hear about the half of what goes on in these government departments and, even when someone does spill the beans, it gets swept under the rug very quickly by either government or the corporate media, or both if it's deemed potentially very damaging.

All we want, and deserve, is a level playing field as far as law and justice is concerned. At work, I have to sit through online ethics and compliance training modules every year. Everything from diversity, data retention and ethics and compliance. Half of what we have to adhere to in the workplace, mandated by the government, we see them ignoring every week and getting away with it.

But, they have us by the short and curlies, by using the old PAYE system, deducting taxes at source instead of allowing us to submit them ourselves. Thus preventing mass tax retention in protest at their actions. While all the time allowing themselves, their rich buddies and corporations to make the best use of designed loopholes that are not available to the man in the street. Is anyone really shocked any more?

Wow, a man in a suit went to them in private and said i'll give you a tax break. . If a man came to me in a suit about my tax it would be wanting more money off of me or for tax fraud charges.

This system is corrupt to the fkin bottom atom its built on. .

Instead of chasing the tax money which these corps owe, which is billions, they chase the bottom people not been able to pay their taxes because they cant afford to survive. Not only that but when you pay too little tax they also slap big monthly repayments ontop of the tax your paying with no choice of paying the low installments, you just have to pay it.period.

They show no empathy to us what so ever, they tax us to take every single bit of excess money we have just to fund the central banking cartel - they dont want us to have extra money when it can all go to the real people who matter

They divide us by saying "your tax is paying for these job seekers" "your tax is paying for foreigners to stay here" "you tax is paying for X Y Z" -- NO Mr Government manipulator, not ONE bit of my tax pays any of that sht you just mentioned so stop fkin with my head, my tax pays off BANKERS for the debt we're always in - Government pay job seekers, Government pay foreigners to stay here, Government is paying for X Y Z. Government Need to sort their # out. Stop fkin over the little person im sick and tiered of hearing about sht like this. When will people wake up. .

Originally posted by TBR47
it really annoys me too our country just blows are tax money like no tomorrow.they spend over 70.000 on 1 single rocket and fired 1000s in Afghanistan and Iraq.each one of those rockets cost more than my house

Firing the weapons means more job creation for the Defence industry - more missile components to build, etc. Different bits come from different NATO countries.

Im sorry, but there it is - war is big business. I therefore don't see an end to conflict, at least until the global economy starts picking up..................(hope im wrong though).

Back on topic, this has been an open secret for a long long time. There are actually many legal loopholes that allow major corporations to scam on their taxes and it isn't just limited to Britain - look at at some of the mega corporations and how they actually get rebates with ridiculous regularity.

Within the UK, companies based in Jersey, for example, have to pay much less tax than those registered onshore.....

Originally posted by Britguy
But, they have us by the short and curlies, by using the old PAYE system, deducting taxes at source instead of allowing us to submit them ourselves. Thus preventing mass tax retention in protest at their actions. While all the time allowing themselves, their rich buddies and corporations to make the best use of designed loopholes that are not available to the man in the street. Is anyone really shocked any more?

(I'm not 100% certain on this one but) PAYE is not mandatory and workers do actually have the right to pay their own taxes, just as corporations and the self employed do! Employers deduct taxes from workers weekly/monthly/whatever but only pay the deductions to the Treasury annually/bi-annually, in effect your taxes are an interest free loan to employers to keep them compliant! In addition, employers have no incentive to offer any employee payment method other than BACS, further eroding the rights of the worker/tax payer to manage their finances as they will!

It's funny, they are supposed to be trying to give incentives to start up your own business yet don't like us to be self employed. Bizarre!

This petition has still not reached 120 000 'signatures' yet. I guess we just know better than to believe it will make a difference. Maybe we simply do not care much any more, so long as we can still just about make our payments and feed our families. I do know that I would be debt free in 6 months if we didn't have to pay so much in tax!

If you earn less than £30 000pa you shouldn't have to pay income tax.

Namaste