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reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 10:43 AM by NoNameBrand
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Dont get me wrong, i agree with the assesment that iran probably doesnt want a war, i just found it funny that it was impossible for the leader of a country to know something, yet in the very next sentence the poster claims that they know. Was wondering how they knew and decided to phrase it the way they phrased it.



reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 10:54 AM by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by MrEcho
The majority of Canadians actually support this guy !!!! We are nothing more than Americans without the warmer climate. What kind of power does Israel have to control these goverments??? Somebody tell me please!!!


Again, the majority of Canadians do NOT support Harper.

Harper won the majority of the vote. The federal voter turn out was at its lowest ever, with the youth so uninspired in politics that most of us didn't vote. And who does this leave as those who voted for Harper? His traditional conservative base, being older generations. His strategy of driving away modern generations of Canadians from the political process worked, because the modern generation of Canadians obviously don't support this warmonger.

And by the way, I never personally met anyone so far who has voted for Harper. In fact, most people I have met (those from my generation specifically) didn't even vote because they could not care less. I myself didn't vote- I chose to go to a job interview instead...

but just thinking about it, there was no party worth voting for. There's no party in Canadian politics that represents my views, as a Canadian citizen. We've entered a "three party" stage of western democracy; unlike in US politics where there are two parties to choose from (who are both well within the pre-destined agenda), Canada has a third party that looks noble but is destined to always lose (the NDP).

Until there is a party running that actually cares about the integrity of a strong Canada, I don't believe that I will ever vote in a federal election again. I would rather spend my voting energy on forming a new party that will represent the modern generation of Canadians, and I welcome anyone who is sane to come join me.
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reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 11:02 AM by Corruption Exposed
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I was in BC for quite a while not very long ago, and I was disgusted by the amount of Harper supporters. They were just sick of the Liberals or were mindless sheep who did whatever people close to them told to do. BC is rampant with Harper supporters, I can guarantee this.

How many of your local ridings are PC? It's an honest question, I don't know the answer. No worries if you don't, I might look it up once I get home.

You do make a good point about the low turnout due to lack of valid choice. That certainly had affected the outcome of the vote.

Ontario is even worse
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reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 11:14 AM by tribaltrip
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If he thinks they are such a great threat, then why doesn't he take his omnibus over there and start fighting?

Now, I feel like I have the leader who just says crazy things.


reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 11:16 AM by tribaltrip
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I still can't believe they thought Iggy would win. Darth Dalton had more of a chance.


reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 11:20 AM by tribaltrip
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My friend you have summed up hours of political tangents between myself and freinds.

We need a new party!



reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 11:34 AM by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
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There are partisan politics all over the country. People will choose conservatives just to spite the liberals, without actually understanding what politics is really about.

As a student in political science, I am able to see politics for the bigger picture that it is. I would never vote with the expectations that my federal party would work to benefit me personally (the federal government is supposed to represent the population to drive national interests, not to necessarily make us happier). But most Canadians who vote do it selfishly, believing in one politician's lies that he will do this for us, when the fact is that the feds have little to do with us individually (unlike provincial government).

Trust me, I've been around the block when it comes to viewing how my generation votes. Here's the usual types that I run into:
- "Status quo" - They are the ones most likely to support Harper, especially since they usually have some stake in business or have standard business education. Harper is an economist, afterall.
- "Heartland" - Usually the basic citizen who votes, but only votes for the sake of voting because they have little understanding of real politics and simply want something that sounds slightly left of the tories (Liberal supporters).
- "Underdog" - The third mainstream voter who tends to vote for the NDP. They see NDP as a moderate choice that could make our lives collectively better, but face it- NDP will never rise to power in the federal level.
- "Treehuggers" - There's loads of environmentally-minded Canadians who would put nature ahead of politics, and that's really the problem with these guys too- they just aren't inspired enough to vote, but if they did then the Green party would have a much stronger base.
- "Dissidents" - Basically this group is made up of any politically-minded citizen who refuse to take part in mainstream voting, usually because there is no real representation. These include: Marxists, Communists, Anarchists, Anarchist-syndicalists, potheads, fringe types, etc etc.

My list does not include the massive amount of people who are simply disinterested in politics. Seriously, there are many people who refuse to understand or take part in politics, so they simply ignore it.
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reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 12:00 PM by BO XIAN
reply to post by 1nOne



A satanic globalist oligarchy is NOT Zionist but is hostile to all that authentic Israel stands for and represents.

Rothchilds are atheists. They do not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Sheesh.


reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 12:15 PM by xuenchen
Originally posted by BO XIAN
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post by 1nOne



A satanic globalist oligarchy is NOT Zionist but is hostile to all that authentic Israel stands for and represents.

Rothchilds are atheists. They do not worship the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

Sheesh.


The Roths are Zionists.

They have a lot of things named after them in Israel.

BUT, they are pseudo-Judaists.

They may own land too.
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