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Originally posted by flexy123
This is exactly the point!! SOPA would enable the government to block a domain on a global level, in particular when it's a site hosted ELSEWHERE (not in the states) - this is the whole idea!
So..no matter where a site is hosted...it would not be able to be accessed from the USA.
SOPA would simply make it "short and painful"..it is like a button for them to disable access via the domain URL in your browser. So you would enter http:// whatever .site.com and the address would be blocked. Where the site then is hosted is not important anymore.
Originally posted by AlexIR
I just have on question for this regarding ATS:
Does this law apply in other countries or does it apply only to websites hosted in the US?
I mean, you could always migrate the website to another server in a neutral country, like for example Switzerland or Lichtenstein and they are not part of the EU either so they are not under the command of the higher powers.
Originally posted by SkepticOverlord
If passed, the bills would enabled the blocking of such sites to everyone in the United States, with little or no due-process, and little or no confirmation a complaint originates with the actual copyright holder.
However, learned legal analysts have agreed that the "non-circumvention" aspects of SOPA and PIPA could easily be used to legally block access to domains owned and operated in the United States.
For example, if an "illegal" content domain is blocked, and an ATS member posts the IP address of the domain's web server, one complaint could get all of ATS blocked to the entire nation.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Free speech will only die when we allow ourselves to be cowed in to silence and refuse to exercise our God-given rights. While it is important for us to be active in the political process and let our representatives (really, ours? ) know where we stand on such issues, it would appear Congress is going to do whatever it wants to do irrespective of our opinions.
Yes, we should be screaming bloody murder about SOPA and PIPPA so we can at least say we did our part in averting this attempt at global censorship but we must also be prepared for the event of it's eventual passage and start developing methods to work around it.
For all the good-sounding intent of such bills we know it will be used to crush dissent and political opposition. These gangsters only look out for themselves and it's time we the people started doing the same and acting in concert just as much as they do. It's only because we act as individuals that they have gained so much power over the rest of us.
2012 will be an interesting year and a critical time for deciding what the future of mankind will be on this planet.
Thank you for stepping up and taking a strong stand on this issue SO. Leadership is what we need for freedom to remain more than just a word in these trying times.
Originally posted by ShadowLink
So, it's ok for SkepticOverlord to express his views and provide a link to a petition to stop SOPA, but when I do it my thread gets deleted? WTF?
Originally posted by DevilsApprentice
Originally posted by Fractured.Facade
The next global crisis will show how truly important the internet is... Assuming the sites for sharing news and information are all still up and running.
If not, you may be in the dark... Not a good place to be.
Mayhaps they do know something
Originally posted by jude11
Great info and correctly laid out.
Now the REAL question is if SOPA was truly engineered to fight online piracy or rather ATS-like sites?
What danger does downloading movies/music pose? And why would the Government even consider getting involved? They never get involved in anything unless there is an end game for them.
Now, what danger does the truth pose? Therein lies the puzzle.
The Government is threatened by freedom of speech and expression so what is the real issue here? What are they trying to stop...The new Animation Block Buster from being downloaded or the spread of ideas, information and dissent?
So by creating legislation for one front, the rest can be incorporated at will. Anytime, anyplace and anything.
I think I know the answer already.
edit on 5-1-2012 by jude11 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Christosterone
Originally posted by satron
Forget ATS, it's going to kill the internet.
Surely no president would sign such legislation into law.
Although I do not know where our current president stands on this issue....
This is scary!!!