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Originally posted by Nyiah
reply to post by Observor
That is a very cold low blow, friend. Refugees are not synonymous with cowards. My personal example would be the fleeing of my great-great grandparents from Pale of Settlement-era Poland, an area where undesirables within the Russian empire at the turn of the 20th century were sent to live in deplorable poverty. Not unlike the ferrying off of people to Siberia, another destination for undesirable Russians. My great-great grandparents fled abuse, starvation and crushing oppression in that era to start over in the US. It did not make them cowards to do so. Check yourself, friend.
I would like to quickly clarify that the Pale was first instituted in 1791 by Catherine the Great to cordon off Russian Jews, and many others, from the rest of Imperial Russia. If you were not Russian Orthodox, that is one of the god forbidden areas you were dumped in. My great-great grandparents were trapped within the boundaries by birth and had no choice in the matter because they were Roman Catholic. This area existed for over 100 years, it does not mean the residents were cowards. They tried many uprisings, and the failures were not for the lack for trying. Tyranny is horrific.
Originally posted by Observor
I totally concur. However if someone purchased a product under an agreement not to make unauthorised copies and distribute them acknowledging only partial ownership of the property he/she thus acquired and if that person violates that agreement either for financial gain or otherwise and is punished it is correct. If the society grants the exclusive financial benefit privileges to the creator or whoever the creator surrenders such rights/privileges to and punishes someone else for trying to financially benefit from such copyrighted works of another, that too is justifiable. But there is no moral justification for seeking to punish someone who is not trying to financially benefit and has never entered into an agreement with the creator to break it, just for being in possession of a copy of the copyrighted work, much less come out with ridiculous laws that violate people's rights in order to enforce these privileges.
Technological advances always destroy someone's livelihood or another's. No one can claim they are entitled to earning a livelihood in a particular manner because some in the past did. If some careers are no longer viable, so be it.
The only thing the record labels produce is the physical media. They produced something, but they created nothing. The artists do the creating, yet they don't get recompensed proportionally. the labels hog the bulk of the profits, simply for chucking out bits of plastic. it seems unfair to me all around.
How can the MPAA and the RiAA have any "intellectual property" that they didn't put any intellect into creating?
The labels acquire the property and privileges by buying them from the creators. How the profits are shared between the label and the creator is best left to them. If those selling their works to the labels are not being illegally coerced into it, I am not sure it is anyone else's business. I am not saying we cannot have opinions about it, we sure can. But such opinions cannot be the basis for judging the right or wrong of it.
Originally posted by DancedWithWolves
... At least unless and until, SOPA passes.
Originally posted by marg6043
It seems that since 9/11 and the knowledge of whom are the ones running this nation behind the so call "presidential seat" the puppets in congress has been paid very good by wall street insiders and corporate America, to pass many laws that all together will mean that we are in a corporate dictatorship.
Now the last law passed to hold American citizens without due process should have been the last drop for freedom loving Americans, but no, so far nobody has taken the leadership to bring the corrupted government we have to be accounted for what they are doing, treason against American citizens, now this new law SOPA will be pushed just like the others.
People doesn't get it until they will no be able to be in their Internet or mobile phones on government approved only sites, or been gathered like sheeple into holding cells under the last law.
In America the biggest danger to our Constitution and our freedoms are not the Middle eastern so call "terrorist" but those that government behind a corrupted system of government that we have now.
Look at politics for what it is and has become in America, nothing but joke and a slap on all the hard working tax payer in the nations.
Remember we are the only ones to blame for what Ever comes our way, because is nobody to fight the corruption in Washington.
NO politicians will be in our site, NONE.