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Originally posted by PhotonEffect
Sure, the calendar has nothing to do with magic or the controlling of historical events, it has no measurable affect on reality- of course this is true. And yes there have been some colorful interpretations of what this calendar was meant to keep track of...
However, I disagree with you that this calendar was only used to measure time in a linear sense... it, along with the step pyramids (9 steps-9 underworlds) maps out the divine plan of creation as believed by the Maya - this according to Calleman who I choose to agree with.
It's a spiritual calendar- a guide for living life according to the divine energies of that particular day- this according to the Maya
Originally posted by Hanslune
..... But those beliefs have no effect on others or the rest of the world.
Yes they adopted some calendars from the Olmecs and Aztecs, and gods too...
Its a cultural parameter they created (or adopted from others). It has meaning to them and might even cause them to make certain decisions.
If I create a calendar that I say starts in 1916 and will terminate tomorrow. What influence does that have on you?
You would be right to snort and laught at the concept.
How about if a few million people also followed that calendar...any difference?
Er, so what was so special about 3114 say vs 3113 and 3115? Seriously
Originally posted by Harte
But Thursday is Thor's day.
Do you get hammered every Thursday?
What does the significance of a thing to one culture have to do with another?
An interesting tidbit from wikipedia on the Mayan calendar.......The resulting date is given as 18.104.22.168.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol, or October 21, 4772 – almost 3,000 years into the future. The king Pacal of Palenque predicted that on this date the eightieth Calendar Round anniversary of his accession will be celebrated, suggesting he did not believe the world would end in 2012.
Originally posted by Hanslune
That calendar has no influence on people in Nepal, Mali or elsewhere. It is a Maya specific cultural aspect.
PE your positions seems to be that this calendar in some way effects events in the physical world OR is so constructed to hightlight known or suspected physical effects? Is this correct?
I noted you couldn't come up with a answer to the 3113 & 3115 vs 3114 question, that isn't suprizing not else has ever done that either.
However within a few hundred years of that date the first Pharonic dynasty began, Sumerian cities were on the rise too. The Han were getting cheeky and in the ME a lot of villages were expanding.
AFAIK nothing particular dramatic or unusual happened when the last Mayan age ended. The third world age ended and this the earth age (4) began.
What does Maya myth say had happened at that time - I believe it was quite dramatic?
Originally posted by joehayner
They probably just quit making calenders.
They realized that making calenders that far into the future might not be very profitable.
(I'm just kidding)
I was just wondering what would happen to the world according to the theory that it ends. Because it can't just end. It has to do something that either makes it uninhabitable, or the world "as we know it" changes so drastically that it might not be recognized...
Well, the entire universe is going to end in a moment of time.
When God takes His hands off of everything, then everything will collapse into itself creating an eternal black hole that holds all things compressed inside of it. This black hole will forever become smaller and smaller until it is practically non-existent. It will be a hole of fire that will burn for eternity. This hole will still be infinite within itself.
THIS COMPRESSED HOLE OF FIRE WILL BE CALLED THE LAKE OF FIRE!
Originally posted by j619pinoy
3 years 1 month to go.....this thread was started over 5 years ago.
Originally posted by The Cyfre
I just think all of these ideas surrounding the Mayan Long Count Calendar are absurd, i'm sorry. I can't tell you what's going to happen, because i can't tell the future. So, I guess me and the calendar have one thing in common there.
Keep in mind that the Mayans were a very spiritual people and trusted the prophecies of their priests. There was a prophecy for every 20-year period I believe, and they have been translated much like the prophecies of Nostradamus so that they can be matched up with events during that time period. Ultimately, the Mayans ended up predicting the demise of their own culture and civilization. Because they had so much faith, they went head-long into their own prophecy when the time came, and were destroyed as a result. This didn't have to happen, but as a spiritual people they believe that it was their destiny.
I don't believe in destiny, but i do believe in mathematics and science. There is nothing in the long count calendar to support that the end of the world is coming.
Originally posted by bubble boy
i dont know much about the bible but i read somewhere when Jesus Christ came down and died for our sins he also ended the end of the world.(oximoron?) anyways a friend at school told me that IF theyre is a judgement day their will be two survivors. yep you guessed it, a new adam and eve. anyways my advice( IF their is judgement day) is to REPENT! what does that mean anyways? another question... since i dont know much about the bible i was wondering after Jesus Christ died then rose from the tomb what happened after that? he doesnt still roam earth does he? i would think that because he never sinned and well if you NEVER sin then your immortal. well thats impposible for us cuz were original sinners.
oh yeah forgot:i also heard somewhere that there was going to be judgement day because God wanted 2000 years of peace on Earth. way too late for that.
[edit on 25-8-2004 by bubble boy]