UFO Secrecy in the 21st Century, page 2
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reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 07:45 AM by Cosmic911
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I would like to see Dr. Greer gain back some of his original credibility. As far as zero point energy, the 2011 military black budget was $57 billion dollars; we have no idea what R&D they are performing. Or even what R&D DARPA is working on.


reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 08:26 AM by saskwatch
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your right no one knows what theyre working on but i doubt its zero point energy



reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 08:56 AM by PrinceDreamer
I think it is more interesting to look at the secrecy around UFO's from a different perspective, whilst it is perhaps understandable that governments would hide the information, wrong but understandable, why do the aliens go along with this? Why is it in their interests to support the governments stance on this?

Looking at the historical evidence, such as medieval paintings, neolithic wall paintings and such to state that aliens have been visiting for as long as people have walked the earth, yet they still don't come forward and declare themselves, what pact did they make with government's? What did our governments offer in return to entice the aliens to keep up this secrecy?

As to the issue of free energy, it will never come and will not happen until the people of the world stand up as one and force its release, Tesla found a way to supply everyone with free energy but it was blocked by his backers (go look who it was...) You have to understand we live in a world dominated by mega corporations, they control everything, they control your energy, your food, your medical, your banks and your tech, getting rid of our dependence on oil and other fossil fuels is contra to their benefit, removes our dependence upon them and that would never be allowed to happen.

Think about it logically, IF and it is a very big IF, the governments wanted to reduce our dependency on on fossil fuels they would mandate that every new house was built with its own mini wind generator, with solar panels and while that would not stop us all needing electricity being sent to our houses it would reduce the demand significantly. Do you think politicians who are tied to the oil industry are ever going to vote for something that reduces our need for oil? C'mon get real.

We the populace are the cash cow that give them money and power, and anything that frees us from their control will be blocked and and buried, and whilst everyone is screaming for disclosure and the wonderful peaceful time we would have when the alien cavalry show up, remember they have been here for thousands of years and I have yet to see any evidence of them helping us. All this BS about us having to be ready and this or that group is waiting for the right time gets on my nerves, if they wanted to help us they would, they are just like us in one way at least, they are self serving


reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 09:56 AM by Cosmic911
Originally posted by saskwatch
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your right no one knows what theyre working on but i doubt its zero point energy


It is the opinion of highly-credentialed professionals who feel otherwise.


reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 08:24 PM by Cosmic911
Originally posted by saskwatch
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thats fine but i personally doubt it sorry


No need to be sorry Thanks for contributing to the thread.


reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 08:40 PM by saskwatch
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the u.s. or europe dont own much oil at all so that means that other countries around the world are controlling the u.s. and europe so why would they remain under their control? why wont they transfer to zero point energy? because they cant do it, its not there, im not saying theres no zero point energy, they might be studying it but dr greer says its already available but theyre keeping it from us and i doubt it


reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 08:51 PM by saskwatch
reply to post by Cosmic911



your welcome buddy, i believe the subject of ets and their existence is quite shocking for alot of people and i believe we should handle it with honesty and credibility so when making wild allegations without some type of factual background needs to be put in proper perspective or at least offer a different point of view to get closer to the truth if at all possible


reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 08:58 PM by Cosmic911
Originally posted by saskwatch
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your welcome buddy, i believe the subject of ets and their existence is quite shocking for alot of people and i believe we should handle it with honesty and credibility so when making wild allegations without some type of factual background needs to be put in proper perspective or at least offer a different point of view to get closer to the truth if at all possible


You are absolutely correct! To believe in something you really need to familiarize yourself with both sides of the issue. Being able to put things in the proper perspective is imperative to presenting logical arguments. I like to think I have a pretty open mind and consider all possibilities. I often debunk my own theories; it can be very frustrating but it keeps me grounded.

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