Obama gives himself authority to supercede Congress

The hilarious part is, the GOP did the same under Bush pushing for this to be possible. There's even a court case serving as precedence commissioned by the GOP

Essentially, he's just doing what they did a few years back. In fact, as I said, they even brought this to court back then to have their way!!!

Originally posted by jtap66
reply to post by GoldenRuled

 

So, if in your post you state (correctly) that Bush did the samre thing, then why does your headline read "Obama gives himself authority to supercede Congress"?

Clearly Obama didn't "give himself" anything, he just took advantage of an existing loophole, as many presidents have done before him.

I agree that it's not the right move on his part, but you distort it to make it sound like Obama created this policy out of thin air right after he wiped with the Constitution.

Just seems intellectually dishonest.

Welcome to ATS.

reply to post by MrXYZ

The hilarious part is, the GOP did the same under Bush pushing for this to be possible. There's even a court case serving as precedence commissioned by the GOP

Because both parties ignoring the constitution is hilarious to you?

And since when someone doing something bad gives ground to someone else to do the same thing?

Everyone should cut the partisan crap and unite against abuse of executive power, otherwise it's already game over.

reply to post by Vitchilo


I agree. But it seems I'm constantly telling that to people who suddenly care about these things now that a leftie is in the White House. When Bush ran amok, most of these same lovers of "freedom" sat on their hands.

Originally posted by GoldenRuled
Long story short, he cannot get the other 2 branches to do what he wants. This is a sidestep tactic to get what he wants. What irritates me most, Bush filled a few positions like this with the excuse noone was in DC. National security, other crap. Just a way to get people into places that helped them push their crap agendas. Just more 'look what I can do and you can't do nothing about it.' Maybe they'll finally impeach his sorry hide.
www.washingtontimes.com...

edit on 5-1-2012 by GoldenRuled because: (no reason given)

If my memory serves me correctly, was it not during The last Bush term that they secretly (they meaning Reublicans) signed into law The President of the u.s.a. has supreme decision and can override any veto or veto any bill or law he exclusively makes. When this law or bill was placed I believe the republicans did nto look far into the future to see a democrat president in the seat using his or her right to do what the congress cant do, start passing bits and pieces of the budget and our future economy without the congress approval. I will sit on the fence with Obamas decision here and see what the outcome will be. We cannot judge this before it shows its effect. HE will be supercedeing congress for the next few weeks to get the economy continuing.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

The hilarious part is, the GOP did the same under Bush pushing for this to be possible. There's even a court case serving as precedence commissioned by the GOP

Because both parties ignoring the constitution is hilarious to you?

And since when someone doing something bad gives ground to someone else to do the same thing?

Everyone should cut the partisan crap and unite against abuse of executive power, otherwise it's already game over.

Nothing he did was against the constitution

Not expecting channels like FOX to get it right though

reply to post by jtap66


Yep. The world is full of hypocrites.

reply to post by MrXYZ

Nothing he did was against the constitution

Yes he did as I have demonstrated here.

Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by GoldenRuled

 

I believe we call these people tyrants. Shouldn't he have been impeached long ago? What's wrong with this government? Oh yeah, they're corrupt...

Well, conservatives wanted him impeached a long time ago but the Democrats still owned Congress then and you need a majority Congress to impeach. In 2010 that changed but no word on impeachment. Some say that we should not impeach because he is not eligible to be a sitting President and to impeach would be to legitimize his policies. They impeached Clinton and he still stayed in office till the end. He does need to be reined in before he does too much more damage.

Originally posted by lbndhr

Originally posted by GoldenRuled
Long story short, he cannot get the other 2 branches to do what he wants. This is a sidestep tactic to get what he wants. What irritates me most, Bush filled a few positions like this with the excuse noone was in DC. National security, other crap. Just a way to get people into places that helped them push their crap agendas. Just more 'look what I can do and you can't do nothing about it.' Maybe they'll finally impeach his sorry hide.
www.washingtontimes.com...

edit on 5-1-2012 by GoldenRuled because: (no reason given)

If my memory serves me correctly, was it not during The last Bush term that they secretly (they meaning Reublicans) signed into law The President of the u.s.a. has supreme decision and can override any veto or veto any bill or law he exclusively makes. When this law or bill was placed I believe the republicans did nto look far into the future to see a democrat president in the seat using his or her right to do what the congress cant do, start passing bits and pieces of the budget and our future economy without the congress approval. I will sit on the fence with Obamas decision here and see what the outcome will be. We cannot judge this before it shows its effect. HE will be supercedeing congress for the next few weeks to get the economy continuing.

Nothing the current POTUS has done has been anything but serving his friends at goldman, his communist friends who catapulted him in with their community networking, and the DSA. He has done nothing but promote International Socialism and change our way of life into the same garbage that the UN is forcing on nations worldwide via UN Agenda 21 and WHO and Codex Alimentarius. It's all the same nonsense. All the fake climate change nonsense.
The guy needs to be voted out or impeached. I would vote for Romney if it meant getting the communist out of the WH.

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


You want to end cronyism...by voting in Romney? Talk about out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Originally posted by Vitchilo
reply to post by jtap66

 

Yep. The world is full of hypocrites.

reply to post by MrXYZ

 

Nothing he did was against the constitution

Yes he did as I have demonstrated here.

edit on 5-1-2012 by Vitchilo because: (no reason given)

Sorry, you are wrong. Familiarize yourself with what a Quorum and a pro forma session is.