The five different possible ways - Time Travel, page
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Topic started on 5-1-2012 @ 11:01 AM by Zagari
In my opinion, we didn't achieve yet time travel, because we never tried to activate a time machine yet.
I think time travel could be only toward the future, unless we find out how to warp travel...

1. Time travel + Technological singularity " The all-cheats activator machine "

One of the theories is that activating time travel would be like activating the final cheat in a videogame, the one who unlocks everything. This kind of time travel would preserve some sort of free will, because we would never meet any future time version nor any past time version. We would simply unlock all of future technology in a instant. It becomes more like a " time advancer ", causing the end of history, the end of linear time, and advancing of progress in a unimaginable way.

2. Time travellers visit the present from the future " The Museum World "

In this version, there is not free will, because after the first time travel, thousands of time travellers, or maybe, some time travellers ( secret missions ? ) will enter this world and arrive from the future.
These people would be aware of the future events, and probably, anyway, history wouldn't be changeable ( possibly ) but only just observable.
The world becomes a museum in which history is revisited from future people.
They might choose to not be observable from us, or perhaps there might be interactions between time.
This version implicates one universe, one timeline, and not multiverses.

3. Time travel into the multiverse " Impossible things become possible "

This is what time travel would be if there are many other dimensions, and many other universes beyond this.
Probably other dimensions would be set in the past, remote or recent, and other ones in the future, remote or recent.
We could communicate and interact in a more free way, because there wouldn't be consequences for our own universe.
People might be able to move into other dimensions and never come back.

If there is a multiverse out there, there isn't any death. People who die will still be alive in another universe in which they survived.
We would discover the secret behind death.

4. Warp travel into the past " Beyond the nuke: this might destroy the whole thing "

This is some kind of dangerous time travel. History becomes flexible, it would mean, it can be changed, and a person would be able to re-shape a world and its history.
Mistakes would cause history timelines to delete and be replaced by total different outcomes.
Governments would send people to correct history, eventually creating a worst history ( in my opinion ).
People would become insane and time would lose its meaning.
Sudden disappearance of your life is always possible, you could find yourself in another timeline every second and chaos would reign in this planet.
People who want power would find the tool of highest temptation...Time travel would be dominated by wrong minds.
This would never be given/shown to public world, It may rest private.
Life would sure become an eternal adventure.
History itself would find a way to fight humanity correcting events, making possible for some other people to create their own timeline.
Correcting mistakes of humanity would lead to bigger consequences.

5. Time travel changes the past " The cause is in the future "
Intra-dimensional time travel " Some other universe invents time travel and we are caught in the interference "

This kind of time travel would consist in this: after the first time travel, a reverberation into the past would cause the past to change and " adapt " to the present event.
Its like throwing a rock into a pond. The environment ( in this case, the timeline ) has to adapt.
This is some kind of an interference event, that may cause even the future to change.
Its again the year zero...The present becomes more powerful than past and future.
We would see both causes from the past and from the future.
Imagine that time travel wasn't supposed to happen. But it happens because of an interference. Say, we didn't discover yet another universe, and in this other universe they invent time travel.
We didn't know yet that some events could influence both timelines.
This may happen even without a time machine...It would mean suddenly, in some yet unforeseen way, we become able to visit the future, or say, see the future, remember the future or something like that.
Imagine that there are certain events that once a singular universe makes them real, the same thing becomes a reality in all of the other ones.

We can now discuss all these theoretical ways for time travel to become real.


reply posted on 5-1-2012 @ 03:47 PM by Panic2k11
reply to post by Zagari



I have problems with several aspects of you propositions.

In case 1) you make assumptions that all is unlockable by the simple fact that someone came from the future, in fact you are observing the event in the present, and from that perspective you would only get to know up to the state of the traveler. Any technological advances may even be excluded by the simple fact of lack of knowledge from the traveler or limits in the information he may carry, technology is not only restricted to information, to be practical it need to be applicable and technology tends to be incremental (that is knowledge depends on previous knowledge and as knowledge is extended so is complexity). This disrupts your assertion about the end of time and linear time, since there must be a cost for time traveling if not only of energy. We are all linear time travelers to the future and to alter that fact the nature of the universe would need to be changed.

In case 2) you advance the idea that they could chose not to be seen, in fact in such setup they could not be seen by the simple fact that being observed would have an impact on the present. For instance if we consider that some UFOs are time-travelers, they can be said to have impacted our culture. This construct also does not exclude the multi-verse theory, it only defines a way of traveling.

In case 3) the only one that is fully workable, you state that "We would discover the secret behind death." in fact only some versions of "we" would discover the secret.

Case 4) is the version that does not work at all, it would be full of paradoxes...

Case 5) is a self correcting version of 4) it will again be prone to some paradoxes even if it excludes other...

I do like the idea of time traveling but do not believe it would be possible to anything more than information to be transfered, that would require the two time ends having the technology, working to form something similar to quantum teleportation across time.


reply posted on 6-1-2012 @ 03:49 AM by DaveNorris
reply to post by paperface


i suppose you would need some kind of quantum locking between a component on the time machine and a fixed feature on earth, but im not sure if the effect would withstand time travel as you would be travelling to a time before they were locked. unless the time machine was built with a landing pad that was quantom locked to it, which means the furthest you could go back would be to the time the machine was built...... very confusing this time travel stuff.



any who, as a reply to the OP...
i like the theory that when you travel back through time you create an alternate dimension. to you your actions reshape the future but to the people you left behind in the original dimension life carries on as usual and you have just dissapeared
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