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Delta 4 heavy rocket contrail demonstrates differing airmasses

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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This video perfectly illustrates how air masses at different altitudes can create conditions for contrails or no contrails, and why a plane flying as little as a hundred feet below or above a cold layer in the atmosphere won't produce as big or as long of a contrail compared to a plane flying within that airmass. Either that or they're using heavy lift rockets to spray us.



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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:46 PM
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Oh, Jeeze!!!

NOW people are going to be MORE upset and "concerned" about that vertical artificial cloud the rocket made!!!





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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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You used "contrail" throughout your entire opening paragraph, but used "chemtrail" in the title. Would you mind changing the title to the proper term (contrail) since the former is not even a known or acknowledged word:






Thanks.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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[SNIP] That video brilliantly shows that vertically, throughout the atmosphere, there can be and are differing air masses of density, pressure, temperature, and humidity. Just like on the surface when a front passes. That's why, when the rocket pass through from a dry warm layer and into a cold layer, it instantly starts producing a contrail.

My point is, this video helps demonstrate why one plane at seemingly at the same altitude as another might produce a huge contrail and the other won't. It also helps show why a planes contrail looks like it turns on and off. It's simply flying through different air masses.

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:06 PM
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As if the whole chemtrail conspiracy hadn't gone far enough, now they are looking at rocket trails and saying chemtrail? is this a joke?

I guess you could technically call it a chemtrail since it contains chemicals from the rocket exhaust but that is stretching "chemtrail" far beyond it's original myth.. if you wanted to take that sort of leap then any smoking car exhaust would be a chemtrail as well .. and so would the smoke anyone exhaled from a cigarette since that contains chemicals and forms a momentary "cloud" ... the difference is the ciggy chemtrail is real and actually IS killing people.

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Thank goodness, it wasn't serious!
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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I was trying to be sarcastic, but oh well. I changed the title. This thread isn't trying to prove rockets are spraying chemtrails, it's to show why contrails sometimes don't form and why they do.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:09 PM
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:11 PM
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Originally posted by Drew99GT
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I was trying to be sarcastic, but oh well. I changed the title. This thread isn't trying to prove rockets are spraying chemtrails, it's to show why contrails sometimes don't form and why they do.


Thank goodness! I was concerned for humanity for a while =) .. lol glad it was sarcastic, sure fished me in ..

I've seen far too many chemtrail claims, I guess I had a hair trigger..



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:12 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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Nice! And that's using the CBC RS-68 through the entire durations of the video, which burns Hydrogen and Oxygen, so all it's spitting out is water vapor. It's only forming clouds (a contrail) in the more saturated regions.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by Uncinus
Nice! And that's using the CBC RS-68 through the entire durations of the video, which burns Hydrogen and Oxygen, so all it's spitting out is water vapor. It's only forming clouds (a contrail) in the more saturated regions.


Unbelievable!! No...not the thread - your statement, "It's only forming clouds (a contrail) in the more saturated regions." You finally said something true. "...in the more saturated regions." I'm so happy to see that your temperature nonsense has gone out the window and that you've finally realized that solar system warming means global warming and we need, therefore, saturation. And how, pray tell, have we achieved saturation? Are you a believer in 'spontaneous saturation?' Do enlighten.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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did you try looking it up in the Urban dictionary?

and im not worried about the vertical "trails" as much as the horizontal ones



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 02:35 AM
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Luxor, I find it hard to believe that you have not read the explanation you seek a gazillion times already on this board, but for the sake of clarity;

The temperature stuff is not nonsense. Contrails form where it is cold enough, it is ALWAYS cold enough above 30,000ft, which is why contrails form high up.

What changes is the relative humidity, this is the saturation that was mentioned, "we" haven't achieved this saturation, as you seem to be thinking, it is a natural fluctuation in the atmosphere. Where the RH is high, the trails persist as they cannot sublimate into the saturated air, maybe think of a sponge that has absorbed as much water as it can, where the RH is lower, it means the air is drier and so the trail disappears as the moisture does sublimate.

I don't think Uncinus has ever said anything different and I suspect, really, you are fully aware of that as it is a simple and elementary point.
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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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And excellent example of how contrails can suddenly form and persist depending on the air mass through which they are flying. S&F


Imagine 2 aircraft, flying 100 feet vertically apart (a distance impossible to determine by eye at that distance) at the level at which the rocket exhaust suddenly produces a big contrail - one aircraft, the higher one, would also be producing a contrail whilst the other (slightly lower) one would not



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