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Was The 1993 Trade Center Bombing A Diversion

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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Ive been mulling around this idea that the 1993 Trade Cent bombing was nothing more than a seismic integrity test so the engineers of 911 could use the data to properly select the instruments needed to successfully bring down both towers on 911 undetected.

The entire scenario from the git was no less than suspicious, being the fact that the FBI'S own bomb department assembled the explosive used, pretty coincidental if you ask moi, to me it seemed that it offered several things, but one of the most important functions was to have access to both basements in both trade buildings after the detonation, this would have given them ample time to secure the large basement bombs that were needed for the up and coming 911 finally, they must have known that it would have been much more difficult to rig the basement undetected than it would be to do the upper towers, so they figured they needed to start there first to secure the bunker busters, but the true purpose for the initial explosion was to see the seismic structural reading on the tower so they could use computer simulations with the data to get the recipe correct when the boys from Israel did their job placing the upper column cutters, it would have been perfect timing, especially because they needed to send crews into both buildings to do explosive sweeps.

you know what i'm saying?




posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:21 PM
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I think it was a failed Operation that led to 911.

a bomb in a truck wasn't big enough to taker down so they got a little smarter and used a bit more power to bring the 3 towers down.

now the big question is who dun it and who profited...

the Info is out there.
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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Pretty interesting, makes sense to me. It's a possibility.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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No , they actually tried to bring them down back then , infact , they even tried to blame Iraq ......... and who did they invade first after "911" ?



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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you know what i'm saying?


No I dont know what you are saying

I doubt you do too......

The 1993 bomb was assembed in a New Jersey apartment using common substances

The explosive used, Urea Nitrate, was so unusual that the according to ATF was only used once before out of
20,000 bombings

Was chosen because was powerful enough, yet unlike other explosives buying the components would not
be suspect

Terrorists also enhanced bomb by using 3 large tanks of hydrogen, bought from AGL welding supply right
down street from me . One person I know we worked there was interviwed by FBI to identify terrorist who
bought the tanks

Another friend was paralegal at Allied Signal in Morristown. She was there when FBI showed up to arrest and
"perp walk: one of the terrorists Nidal Ayyad out of the building

Original plan of terroritst was to try to topple one tower into another . If bomb had been more powerful might
have succeeded



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:28 PM
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Larry Silverstien had to have known about the Asbestos and the many other problems before ever putting the bid in for the trade centers, but the CIA had already cut the deal with the Israelis and Larry was their man on the inside to get the leases in order to have complete control over all operations



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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I would say that this is what they led everyone to believe so the buck would stop there, i'm pretty sure of it



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 01:31 AM
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'93 gave the Port Authority cover to break leases and clear out tenants, to be replaced with brass plate companies and other companies necessary for the demolition. Floors would need to be cleared of all contents, explosives would need to be planted, and what better way to accomplish this but with a building full of CIA front companies, and light shows supplied by Ogden Entertainment International. Gotta have a light show for folks to believe the towers are occupied.

It also gave a pretext for the "Islamic Terrorism" meme. We're faking a terrorist attack, after all.


Ogden, a global entertainment services provider to arenas, sports stadiums (Veteran's Stadium in Philadelphia), concert halls, amphitheaters and amusement parks (Disney World), was awarded the contract in March after requests for proposals were put out by the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. Ogden's proposal won over six other high-powered bidders, including Time Warner and Service America.

Source

Surely an international entertainment company able to compete with Time Warner does more than just sell hotdogs at ball games. Yep, there we go...defense contracts.


UNTIL 1985, OGDEN CORPORATION was primarily a "smokestack operation" - it built ships and freight cars, manufactured machine tools and processed scrap metal. However, in 1985, Ogden sold these operations to its employees to concentrate on services. "The new Ogden," company ads proclaimed, is "putting America's house in order."

Today, Ogden Corporation is a "service-oriented" company with 40,000 employees and net sales and service revenues in 1992 of over $1.76 billion. Based in New York City, its businesses include Ogden Building Services, which manages and maintains commercial buildings; Ogden Entertainment Services, which promotes concerts; and Ogden Aviation Services, which refuels planes and prepares on-flight meals. Ogden Environmental and Energy Services provides consultation to the nuclear industry and is involved in the cleanup of Defense and Energy Department contaminated sites.

Source

More here



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 01:47 AM
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oh your so close , FBI might well...eying you, now ask where is the GOLD,and EPA fines for not cleaning up the towers after the blast in '93, why did The Port Authority of New York leave that day, yes they had offices in the towers but where empty that day, and then ask why were upper floors[ at or above the planes impact zones] closed during reconstruction and no permits issued for the floors in question.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 12:49 PM
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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It’s amazing how circular the logic of the delusional can be.
Especially since the delusional don’t have one shred of evidence.
They run on hunches.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by samkent
It’s amazing how circular the logic of the delusional can be.
Especially since the delusional don’t have one shred of evidence.
They run on hunches.


Not saying the OP is right, but where is your evidence that this is delusional logic?

Do you just throw everything out that doesn't fit the OS as 'delusional'? (don't answer that, we know you do)

I guess that believing sagging trusses can put a pulling force on columns isn't delusional?


Really you should stop with the 'I have nothing to add to the discussion, other than calling people delusional' tactic. I don't think anyone really cares what you think.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by sweetnlow
Ive been mulling around this idea that the 1993 Trade Cent bombing was nothing more than a seismic integrity test so the engineers of 911 could use the data to properly select the instruments needed to successfully bring down both towers on 911 undetected.


BANKER: David Rockefeller Sept. 23, 1994 "This present window of opportunity, during which a truly peaceful and interdependent world order might be built, will not be open for too long — We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."

It could be that David wanted the towers to come down in 1993. From my understanding of the way he talks this quote is a stinging rebuke to those who failed.

I suspect there may have been another truck under the other tower. When the first tower didn't detonate and fall the second truck drove away. If the towers were built for destruction with explosives hidden in the building materials it would already have been a very late start in 1993. When the 2001 plot ripened it was do or die. Both towers failed to detonate and had to be helped along.

The way I see it the World Trade Centre Disaster was a disaster for the perps.

The whole story seems to fit together if you see it as a long term plan that went horribly wrong.

I'm not knocking anyone else's research. Several destructives technologies could have been used together.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 04:15 PM
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Yep
and that's how facts present themselves, Sherlock



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Really you should stop with the 'I have nothing to add to the discussion, other than calling people delusional' tactic. I don't think anyone really cares what you think.

But to allow people to make up facts unchallenged tends to foster the myth of 911.
To date no one has come forth with any verifiable facts that changes the basic assertions of the OS.

It's all been speculation or outright lies. It's like stepping in the same old cow pie every six weeks. It doesn't smell any better.

P.S. If the disinterest in the so called conspiracy through out the US is any indication, I don't think anyone really cares what you believe happened on 911. There are a few on here that do but that's far from a significant number in the real world.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Yep
and that's how facts present themselves, Sherlock

Please feel free to present your facts. Other conspiracy websites don't count.



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by ANOK
 





Really you should stop with the 'I have nothing to add to the discussion, other than calling people delusional' tactic. I don't think anyone really cares what you think.

But to allow people to make up facts unchallenged tends to foster the myth of 911.
To date no one has come forth with any verifiable facts that changes the basic assertions of the OS.

It's all been speculation or outright lies. It's like stepping in the same old cow pie every six weeks. It doesn't smell any better.

P.S. If the disinterest in the so called conspiracy through out the US is any indication, I don't think anyone really cares what you believe happened on 911. There are a few on here that do but that's far from a significant number in the real world.


If you don't even care, why are you here arguing with "delusional people" who don't even know what they're talking about?

Even if you're right and everyone who smells a rat on the 9/11 thing is delusional, you would be pissing in the wind trying to change their minds.because a big part of the very nature of a delusion is irrationality. You wouldn't be able to convince an irrational person of anything using rationality anyway, right?



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 07:02 AM
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If you don't even care, why are you here arguing with "delusional people" who don't even know what they're talking about?


If you have ever been to other conspiracy sites that don’t allow dissent what you see is a cesspool of ignorance. People making wild claims without any basis in fact. Or facts that don’t exist. The subsequent posters are merely the ‘here here’ type.

At least on ATS everyone can be challenged on their beliefs. Just like I challenge sweetnlow to prove.



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posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Let's have less of the racial/ethnic slurs, please. It's not cool, and it makes you look like a bad person. That's all I have to say.



posted on Jan, 6 2012 @ 01:33 PM
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I'm a horrible mean person,...Sowwy



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