Originally posted by seabag
Why are there so many pseudo-intellectuals out there who think they are above the right/left paradigm? Those who claim they are above it are clingers who WISH they had an ounce of sense.  

What does opinion on homosexuality have to do with the left-right paradigm? You're confusing conservatism and liberalism, which have nothing to do with the left-right paradigm.

Many on the left are conservative, many on the right liberal. You aren't in a position to insult peoples intelligence.

Originally posted by 1nOne
Annee: Giving you a head start on UNESCO's leadership and agenda:

Wiki: The history of Christianity in the Soviet Union was not limited to repression and secularization. Soviet policy toward religion was based on the ideology of Marxism-Leninism, which made atheism the official doctrine of the Soviet Union. Marxism-Leninism has consistently advocated the control, suppression, and, ultimately, the elimination of other religious beliefs.[1]

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You can shove UNESCO the same place you can shove your bible.

Religion is not the peace of the world - - if any thing - - it is the complete opposite.

Originally posted by buster2010
Some of the rednecks are just going to have to learn there are gay people in this world and they are part of American history. Oh this person did something important but we can't talk about him because he's gay. Now who is squashing free speech?

Congrats on winning the ignorance award of 2012!!! The issue isn't who accomplished what... the issue is having to have their sexual preference rammed down our throats! I don't ever recall reading, "Thomas Jefferson, a devout heterosexual, was a founding father of the United States of America" or "Thomas Edison, who prefered the company of women for pleasure over men, invented the light bulb".

Apparently it is more aptly stated, "Some gays are just going to have to learn that NO ONE is interested in their sexual deviance or the sexual preference of any historical figures"!!!

Originally posted by kozmo
I don't ever recall reading, "Thomas Jefferson, a devout heterosexual, was a founding father of the United States of America"

This is one of the most stupid arguments of all the anti-gay arguments.

Of course you didn't hear about his sexuality - - why would you.

Because heterosexuality was the only thing accepted/allowed - and shoved down everyone's throat.

Originally posted by technical difficulties
Despite your post being coated in right-wing extremism, I agree with you that that it is wrong.

I kind of misread your post at first and thought you complaining about gay history, mainly because I've seen people who actually believe acknowledging famous figures who were gay as part of some gay agenda, which is nothing short of idiotic but I digress..

Originally posted by DrChuck

Originally posted by buster2010
Some of the rednecks are just going to have to learn there are gay people in this world and they are part of American history. Oh this person did something important but we can't talk about him because he's gay. Now who is squashing free speech?

Why do our children need to know that specific person was gay? Who gives a sh#t about the historical figures sexual orientation?

Homophobes who rail against the idea teaching people that yes, there are gay people out there who can accomplish great things, just as straight people can. Also, if you truly didn't care about someone's sexual orientation in a history textbook, then you wouldn't be complaining about someone's sexual orientation in a history textbook.

Right-wing extremism? You think I'm planning a massive genocide of homosexuals because I think they are sub-human? Sheesh, say one thing that seems against homosexuality and your branded a evil horrifying tyrant.

I'm not complaining about someones sexual orientation in a history book, sometimes it is necessary to know every aspect of a given historical figure to fully comprehend the decisions they made. There are PLENTY of history textbooks that mentions homosexuality at the college level and beyond, where it might be necessary to understand the dynamics of the figure or a culture.

Its the part where they put it in childrens textbooks I have a problem with.

Who knew.

Shall we also give extraneous details about great inventors, scientists, academics, criminals about their preferential sexual habits.

"Dr.Ho, who revolutionized the world with his levitation force and kicking off a whole new paradigm in gravitrons, also likes it doggy-style."

Ah. Good to know everyone has their eyes on the ball. Or balls.

Originally posted by DrChuck

Its the part where they put it in childrens textbooks I have a problem with.

Children today are very aware. They're even aware of their bigoted homophope parents.

The children don't care.

Gays are born - - its how their "God soup" was mixed.

Which means there are gay children. Children - especially gay children - need to know many historical heroes were also gay.

Originally posted by Aeons
Who knew.

Shall we also give extraneous details about great inventors, scientists, academics, criminals about their preferential sexual habits.

The arrogance and ignorance of the anti-gay crowd is astounding. Gays aren't like me - there's something wrong with them.

No - there is nothing wrong with those born with same gender attraction. There is something wrong with those who create fear by ignorance.

Its time we accept life as it is created - - - and quit shoving it in the closet.

The American Disabilities Act was passed in 1990. Only 21 years ago.

Prior to that anyone could deny access to a disabled person. Restaurants/Movie theaters - - could deny a disabled person simply because it upset the other customers - - it made them feel uncomfortable.

It creeped people out to look at a "crippled" person. I guess their rights were being violated by seeing a "crippled" person.

You know who was the #1 opponent of the ADA? The Christian church. Yep! It wasn't cost effective to accommodate the disabled.

Originally posted by Communicationwillfreeus
nor do I condone gayism

Gayism

OT: I don't care at this point, I'm out of school, out of cally, and have no children of my own! However, I would have to read what this revisions are before I past judgment. I have nothing against schools teaching kids to be all accepting of people and sh*t. Though I do have a problem if they start messing with history and using half truths in order to further a agenda.

Originally posted by Annee
The American Disabilities Act was passed in 1990. Only 21 years ago.

Prior to that anyone could deny access to a disabled person. Restaurants/Movie theaters - - could deny a disabled person simply because it upset the other customers - - it made them feel uncomfortable.

It creeped people out to look at a "crippled" person. I guess their rights were being violated by seeing a "crippled" person.

You know who was the #1 opponent of the ADA? The Christian church. Yep! It wasn't cost effective to accommodate the disabled.

The Christian Church? Get your facts straight. Your ignorance about Christians is as bad as your accusations of stupidity in homophobes.

Originally posted by Annee


Children need positive role models (please don't be lame and say their parents).

Sorry,but Parents should be the number 1 role models.

Remind me never to let you babysit my children.

I'm old enough to remember George Wallace - - The Great White Hope.

Today he is nothing but a pathetic footnote in history - - except maybe to White Supremacists.

20 years from now - - all the anti-gay politicians - - will be pathetic footnotes in history.

Society is progressing in acceptance of what they lacked understanding of in the past.

Originally posted by sonnny1

Originally posted by Annee


Children need positive role models (please don't be lame and say their parents).

Sorry,but Parents should be the number 1 role models.

Remind me never to let you babysit my children.

OK - - my mom was raised racist.

She raised us to know and accept "People as their Heart".

Why? Because its our generation - - not hers.