Ron Paul brings back soldier that was cut off from CNN

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

In what way?
Firstly they would NEVER allow a true rebel, a true "For the people" candidate to get elected.... never.


For him to even get elected it would mean people are listening and understanding what he's saying. To me, that means THE PEOPLE are waking up.



Secondly, even if by a miracle there was one and they did get in, they'd get taken out quicker than you can say "Texas school book depository"


Sadly, I don't disagree with this. It wouldn't surprise me in the least. It wouldn't be unheard of for a man of his age to have a "heart attack."



Third, what power do you honestly believe a president has?


Despite the actual power he has, it's a platform. A platform to speak and educate. It's a lot harder for the MSM to downplay and ignore a Presidential speech than a Congressman or candidate.



It's all a big show... the whole thing.

We argue about whether Gays should marry and whether rape victims should be able to have abortions and which country should and shouldn't be invaded... and they carry on sitting there and laughing.



The difference between Ron Paul and the others, is that he is actually going after and against the "puppet masters." Sure, that might get him "offed," but it's the only hope in a candidate we have. I understand where you're coming from. TPTB will do anything to keep their control. And electing him will at least make a statement that some are waking up.

And a nation of an aware public is much more powerful than any President, Ron Paul or otherwise. This election is a chance to show that we're waking up. But, unfortunately I'm not sure most people are. It's at least a last ditch effort on my behalf to have faith in the people of the country. Maybe a bit too optimistic, but I guess we'll see.




posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by DiabolusFireDragon
And a nation of an aware public is much more powerful than any President, Ron Paul or otherwise. This election is a chance to show that we're waking up. But, unfortunately I'm not sure most people are. It's at least a last ditch effort on my behalf to have faith in the people of the country. Maybe a bit too optimistic, but I guess we'll see.



I get what you're saying man, truly I do.

This pretty much sums up what I'm saying.



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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 03:13 PM
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There will always be a real human being in the political haystack..

Needle being RP



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup



Man.... I swear to god... politics in the US.

You guys are being played so bad.

It's so obvious... It's like a circus.


Guy gets cut off by awful news station... have no fear, Super Ron Paul is here..

:shk:









How convenient







I also find it convenient that any pro Ron Paul thread has replies like this with nothing backing them up. Think about this way both sides are attacking him every chance they get. In my book that means he is telling the truth.




If he does not get elected this country will continue to slowly spin out of control until the middle class and the middle east are gone.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

If you honestly think RP is going to save you and our country.... then yes, you're deluded.

And this isn't an anti-american stance, just an anti-stupidity one



Yet, you cannot say with any certainty that he won't save America.
You see, what you are doing is acting as though you know for a fact that Ron Paul will not make a huge difference in America. The only fact is that you do not have these facts, and are simply speculating. It's fine to speculate, but it's not fine to speculate and then act as though it's fact and then use those things that you consider to be fact to pass judgement on those who believe something by calling them deluded and acting as if they are stupid.

Cheers



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup

Also you're not choosing a president...

ALL of the choices are "Their" candidates.

Ron Paul is a republican candidate.

You don't choose him.



Ron Paul is originally Libertarian, but yes I do understand why he has to go to the Republican camp- In America there are only two significant political parties, and he has to make compromises.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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This was supposed to be a reply to DiabolusFireDragon but I hit the wrong button...

Right now is Ron Paul's time. He has nothing to loose, even his life. He's something like 76 years old. Sure. he's healthy, he's a doctor for god sakes. Clearly a damn good one. But he is old and even if he has twenty years left as a man on the earth, he has left an American legacy that goes way beyond the side show that is "politics."

And if he does get offed well that legacy will be even greater. And, to be honest I think that's something that TPTB fear more than anything. That snuffing out Ron Paul's candle might ignite a fire that they can't control. Kill the last honest man in politics, then see what the people do.

Those in power may want chaos and war. They may even want martial law and all those other "conspiracies". And if they do, I am sure that they want them on their terms. Killing Ron Paul might start the war that they wanted but it will utterly pull the wool down from the eyes of those still sleeping.

Bottom line is if Ron Paul dies, even of natural causes or events, TPTB will be blamed and people will be PISSED. They want him alive, they need him alive, because Ron Paul dead is something harder to contain than Ron Paul alive.

If he becomes President, same thing stands. And the platform he has is a stage for the world. And many eyes will open along with many changes that won't easily be reversed. Not only in policy but in public perception of America, her citizens and their place in the world and in their own country. Will America continue their role in actual freedom and liberty? Or will the world continue to pretend they do? Me thinks the world will not, nor will American citizens.

TPTB are screwed and the American "brand" needs to be fixed or lived up to lest people stop buying it.

Believe it or not Ron Paul is the perfect choice. TPTB can use him as a vehicle for change, if they were only flexible and creative enough to see the potential in Ron Paul as president. Why not reshape the world and remain in power? I'm sure the puppet masters can put on a show with Ron and at the same time Ron can get America on the right track.

No one will destroy the infrastructure the oligarchs have created it's huge. It can change slowly though for both us and them, all that is required is co-operation. Ron Paul is the hinge on a door with tons of potential. There is too much momentum and energy now for there not to be change.

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This was supposed to be a reply to DiabolusFireDragon but I hit the wrong button...
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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Actually that pretty much sums up what George Carlin is saying which you may agree with just like a lot of people agree with the message Ron Paul is saying. He wasnt always running as a republican either, however there is a system and procedures in place that must be followed that are not going to change anytime soon so we must learn and use what we have at our disposal and move in the right direction. You are right one person even as president cannot do as much as they claim but the more and more we get the right people embedded in the more change we will start seeing. Lesser of the Evils if you say so... which as you said is still the one to pick. Also in the clip he talks about the media telling us what to think in which case you most likely would want to do the opposite which would also be Ron Paul
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:53 PM
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Maybe people should think about who they pick as a hero or a victim.

www.gq.com...



Florida's Lee County court records show Thorsen was arrested in December 2004 for burglary, grand theft of a firearm, and carrying a concealed weapon. He was sentenced in July 2005 to 30 months probation and 120 hours of community service. He broke his probation twice and was held in custody both times. But according to his lawyer, Jean-Paul Galasso, the fact that he received probation for serious-sounding felony charges suggests a less severe set of events. "Generally if someone's not going to prison for burglary of a dwelling there's real extenuating circumstances, like it's probably just a trespass or whatever." The court granted an early termination of his probation in March 2007 because, according to Galasso, Thorsen promised to reenlist. "That's what he had said to the judge, yes," Galasso says.

Thorsen kept his word, reenlisting two years later. In October 2011, he transferred from Arkansas to Army Reserve duty in Des Moines. Three months later, expecting to shortly ship out for a tour in Afghanistan, he met his presidential candidate on national television, and told us all to stop "nitpicking wars with other countries."


florida.arrests.org...



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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:54 PM
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:57 PM
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It may not look obvious, but people will begin to wake up and rise against the MSM.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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You now I have read most of your post in this thread....and not once have I seen you propose a solution with actions we can take to fix the problem.

OK OK I think we get that you don't like politicians in general.

So what is the point of posting this verbal diarrhea about Politicians is you don't have any answers?



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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It was a cheap Ron Paul parlor trick.
He admits the guy has been with the campaign for a few years.
This was no random serviceman CNN cut off, by Ron Paul's own words.
If this guy is still under active service, he will be in a lot of trouble now. Cannot be political in uniform, it's the law.
CNN was most likely following their legal policy by cutting it short once the legal line was crossed in what he was saying. They don't want to be blamed for sending a serviceman to millitary prison, bad for business too.
Ron Paul's campaign sent him on a uniformed mission to get in front of the camera is my bet, knowing he would be cut off for having a millitary uniform on.
The phoney acting "Rock star" comment he made applied way too much cheese to an already staged scene.
Two thumbs down




posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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I just love when the truth exposes the amateur Ron Paul show for what it is.
This guy appears to still be in the Service, so he is most likely in a lot of trouble for his illegal political activities under US Millitary Law.

That story didn't last 24 hours before it was turned into an utter embarassement for Ron Paul. They need to try to find legitimate ways to gain more support.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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There was a blurb on CNN today about the soldier getting in trouble because he violated a military policy in showing support for a specific candidate. It's unfortunate that this man wore his uniform because if he hadn't then he would have been less likely to get in to trouble.




Members of the active-serving armed forces are subject to Department of Defense Directive 1344.10, titled: Political Activities by Members of the Armed Forces. The intent of this directive essentially mirrors Hatch Act provisions for federal civilian employees.

In keeping with the traditional concept that members on active duty should not engage in partisan political activity, and that members not on active duty should avoid inferences that their political activities imply or appear to imply official sponsorship, approval, or endorsement, the following policy shall apply:

4.1. General

4.1.1. A member of the Armed Forces on active duty may:

4.1.1.1. Register, vote, and express a personal opinion on political candidates and issues, but not as a representative of the Armed Forces.

4.1.1.2. Promote and encourage others to exercise their voting franchise, if such promotion does not constitute use of their official authority or influence to interfere with the outcome of any election.

4.1.1.3. Join a partisan or nonpartisan political club and attend its meetings when not in uniform, subject to the restrictions of subparagraph 4.1.2.4. (See DoD Instruction 1334.1 (Reference (c).)


SOURCE



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 10:13 PM
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They need to try to find legitimate ways to gain more support.


And you need to find another legitimate way to gain support here on ATS or start being more well-rounded, because everything you post is one sided. You say nothing about how to fix problems for the people here in the U.S. Everything you post is like you have a personal vendetta against RP. All your programmed to do is cause ruckus for us people who want a change, and you can't seem to grasp that concept.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 11:46 PM
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it's the elderly people in America that votes at the caucasuses, and it's too bad, because they are the hardest to reach.

It seems they dont understand the mess America is in with the national dept, there has to be serious cuts.

Maybe they dont care because they so old that when the economy collapses in a few years they are not around anyway.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 11:53 PM
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Originally posted by blupblup
Firstly they would NEVER allow a true rebel, a true "For the people" candidate to get elected.... never.

Secondly, even if by a miracle there was one and they did get in, they'd get taken out quicker than you can say "Texas school book depository"

Third, what power do you honestly believe a president has?


The guy has a point.

Even if Ron Paul is for real, and he gets elected. How is he going to disarm the establishment - i.e. the people that comprise the military-industrial-intelligence infrastructure. They will remain present regardless of who gets elected. Unless maybe, a large portion of that establishment also supports Ron Paul and can oust those who oppose him.

It is evident that the problem is far deeper than who gets elected for president.

The solution to the problem will require an internal war of sorts - a deep surgery.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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Here is the bottom line:

Ron Paul: 21%
Everybody else: 79%

What don't you understand about this?



posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by TinfoilTP
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This guy appears to still be in the Service, so he is most likely in a lot of trouble for his illegal political activities under US Millitary Law.

Is he the only in-service guy approached by CNN?





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