The Mystery Of Operation Blackjack

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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 12:51 AM
BTW, the OP, and his sources claim that the Bush clan, and others, wanted to implement a fascist government in which the corporations would be in power right?... But you want to claim this is a rightwing attempt at stopping 'progressive legislation"?...

Socialism /ˈsoʊʃəlɪzəm/ is an economic system characterized by social ownership[dubious – discuss] of the means of production and cooperative management of the economy; or a political philosophy advocating such a system.[1] "Social ownership" may refer to any one of, or a combination of, the following: cooperative enterprises, common ownership, direct public ownership or autonomous State enterprises.[2][3] Socialist economies are based upon production for use and the direct allocation of economic inputs to satisfy economic demands and human needs (use value); accounting is based on physical quantities of resources, some physical magnitude, or a direct measure of labour-time.[4]

Socialism can include the social ownership of the means of production to include the ownership through "cooperative enterprises"...

What are "cooperative enterprises"?...

A cooperative (also co-operative or co-op) is a business organization owned and operated by a group of individuals for their mutual benefit.[1] A cooperative is defined by the International Cooperative Alliance's Statement on the Cooperative Identity as "an autonomous association of persons united voluntarily to meet their common economic, social, and cultural needs and aspirations through jointly owned and democratically controlled enterprise".[2] A cooperative may also be defined as a business owned and controlled equally by the people who use its services or by the people who work there. Various aspects regarding cooperative enterprise are the focus of study in the field of cooperative economics.

Cooperative enterprises are BUSINESSES/CORPORATIONS...

So if the Bush clan, and a few others wanted to implement fascism, which is a leftwing ideology, then they were/are really leftwingers/progressives...

The op, and some members also seem to forget that Hitler's policies were "PROGRESSIVE", he promised them CHANGE and that things would be better, and in some ways they did get better, for some Germans only...

Also, many American PROGRESSIVES agreed with Hitler, and his policies...

The American "Progressives" were the first Fascists of the 20th century

By John Ray (M.A.; Ph.D.)

"Hayek's challenge was to argue that German Nazism was not an aberrant "right-wing" perversion growing out of the "contradictions" of capitalism. Instead, the Nazi movement had developed out of the "enlightened" and "progressive" socialist and collectivist ideas of the pre-World War I era, which many intellectuals in England and the United States had praised and propagandized for in their own countries."

This ATTEMPT at rewritting history is kind of scary, and at the same time it is the reason why so many Americans , and people around the world, are falling asleep and allowing the same policies which installed dictatorships to take root in world politics.

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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 01:00 AM
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 01:00 AM


Just as progressives were generally enthusiastic about socialist movements in the Soviet Union and Europe, they were also overwhelmingly supportive of the fascist movements in Italy and Germany during the 1920s and 1930s. “In many respects,” writes journalist Jonah Goldberg, “the founding fathers of modern liberalism, the men and women who laid the intellectual groundwork of the New Deal and the welfare state, thought that fascism sounded like ... a worthwhile 'experiment'”:

H. G. Wells, one of the most influential progressives of the 20th century, said in 1932 that progressives must becomeliberal fascists andenlightened Nazis.Regarding totalitarianism, he stated: “I have never been able to escape altogether from its relentless logic.” Calling for a “‘Phoenix Rebirth’ of Liberalism” under the umbrella of “Liberal Fascism,” Wells said: I am asking for a Liberal Fascisti, for enlightened Nazis.
The poet Wallace Stevens pronounced himself “pro-Mussolini personally.”
The eminent historian Charles Beard wrote of Mussolini’s efforts: “Beyond question, an amazing experiment is being made [in Italy], an experiment in reconciling individualism and socialism.”
Muckraking journalists almost universally admired Mussolini. Lincoln Steffens, for one, said that Italian fascism made Western democracy, by comparison, look like a system run by “petty persons with petty purposes.” Mussolini, Steffens proclaimed reverently, had been “formed” by God “out of the rib of Italy.”
McClure’s Magazine founder Samuel McClure, an important figure in the muckraking movement, described Italian fascism as “a great step forward and the first new ideal in government since the founding of the American Republic.”
After having vistited Italy and interviewed Mussolini in 1926, the American humorist Will Rogers, who was informally dubbed “Ambassador-at-Large of the United States” by the National Press Club, said of the fascist dictator: “I’m pretty high on that bird.” “Dictator form of government is the greatest form of government,” Rogers wrote, “that is, if you have the right dictator.”
Reporter Ida Tarbell was deeply impressed by Mussolini's attitudes regarding labor, affectionately dubbing him “a despot with a dimple.”
NAACP co-founder W. E. B. DuBois saw National Socialism as a worthy model for economic organization. The establishment of the Nazi dictatorship in Germany, he wrote, had been “absolutely necessary to get the state in order.” In 1937 DuBois stated: “there is today, in some respects, more democracy in Germany than there has been in years past.”
FDR adviser Rexford Guy Tugwell said of Italian fascism: “It's the cleanest, neatest, most efficiently operating piece of social machinery I've ever seen. It makes me envious.”
New Republic editor George Soule, who avidly supported FDR, noted approvingly that the Roosevelt administration was “trying out the economics of fascism.”
Playwright George Bernard Shaw hailed Stalin, Hitler, and Mussolini as the world’s great “progressive” leaders because they “did things,” unlike the leaders of those “putrefying corpses” called parliamentary democracies.
According to Goldberg, progressives' affinity for fascism was quite understandable because, contrary to popular misconception: “[F]ascism, properly understood, is not a phenomenon of the right at all. Instead, it is, and always has been, a phenomenon of the left.”


If you don't want to believe the above, there is PLENTY of evidence that shows quite the contrary to what the OP, and his sources are trying to claim by REWRITTING history...

1/11 Ronald Radosh reviews Jonah Goldbergs new book Liberal Fascism. A key historical quotation: the very term liberal fascism came from the pen of H. G. Wells, the famed socialist author who delivered a speech at Oxford University in 1932 that included hosannas to both Stalins Russia and Hitlers Germany. ‘I am asking,’ Wells told the students, for a Liberal Fascisti, for enlightened Nazis.Democracy, he argued, had to be replaced with new forms of government that would save mankind, producing aPhoenix Rebirth of liberalism that would be called Liberal Fascism. Like the activism, experimentation, and discipline that made the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany new dynamic societies, the West too could reach such a plateau by adopting the new soft fascism that suited it best.

People really need to open their eyes, or we are screwed and tolitarianism will win the day.

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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 01:02 AM
I find the countries mentioned in the comic interesting i.e. Syria, Iran and China. Iran and Syria are pretty much the only two countries in the Middle East whose leaders are still independent of US control and elements seem to be hell bent on toppling them. So I could see this play out like this:

- Coordinated false flag attacks across the board.
- These countries blamed, and the governments toppled. However, I think they (TPTB) have altered their plan and are trying a more sneaky method which will be to get 'freedom fighters' to topple the governments so that they can put their own puppets in power and secure the middle east. If that fails, then this Blackjack operation can be put into motion as it'll get other countries to comply too out of fear.

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 04:03 AM
reply to post by Rising Against

i have heard that usama bin laden has been dead for a long time now according to video footage and things.. Which makes me think that they didnt release the news of his death untill they had taken care of the nukes that were planted by terrorists , and i think that the operation blackjack was a ( just in case ) they didnt find the nukes it would sort of prepare people for what could possibly come .

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 04:10 AM
reply to post by Rising Against

S&F for your explanation and inspiration to start this thread. I hate people who hi-jack or piggy-back on someone elses ideas or thread without giving any credit to the OP.

Interesting topic..

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 05:00 AM
If we take standard numerology A=1 B=2 C=3 D=4 E=5 F=6 G=7H=8 I=9 J=1 K=2 L=3 M=4 N=5 O=6 P=7 Q=8 R=9 S=1 T=2 U=3 V=4 W=5 X=6 Y=7 Z=8
Then BLACKJACK=231321132 which= 18 or 666
Also,there was a telly program I watched about a nice lady trying to catch all the stray cats on the waste ground that was to become the London Olympic site This was to stop our furry friends getting flattened by the bulldozers One elusive moggie called Blackjack proved hardest to nab
In the final scene of this program the lady has her cat and as she walks into a cat pen little Blackjack
runs up to her hissing and scratching her
Predictive programming ?

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 05:19 AM
reply to post by ElectricUniverse

There is a running dispute among scholars about where along the left/right spectrum that fascism resides.
Plus H.G. Wells was above average at writing fiction(social science fiction), nothin more, nothing less.

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 05:28 AM
Funny how so many people would have assumed the "UNA eagle" was based on the "USA eagle".

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 05:44 AM
reply to post by Rising Against

Just wanted to say what a great read.

Thanks, got my brain ticking over.

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 05:44 AM
I'm not sure if it's been mentioned before but in one of the slides posted by the OP, it says, "The capitals and other cities of five great countries were reduced to rubble..."

What five great countries are they talking about? As far as I've seen, in the slides, only London, DC, Toronto, Portland, LA, and Mexico City are attacked.

1. UK
2. USA
3. Canada
4. Mexico

Unless they mean:
1. Corporation of London
2. DC ( Or whatever it's other supposed name is)
3. Canada (Toronto being one of the "other" cities)
4. USA (LA & Portland the others)
5. Mexico
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 05:56 AM

Originally posted by Phenomium
If you stop the video on the fist page at 7:10 (where the ID card is) and run those ID card numbers through an online hexadecimal thanslator there is a message that says "This is not simply entertainment". Despite what it says in english under every picture....that is is nothing but fiction. The hidden code on that ID car says different.
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Star for you!

ID: 74686973206973206e6f742073696d706c7920656e7465727461696e6d656e74

Hex to Text Convert: this is not simply entertainment

Hex to Text Site

EDIT: Ooops missed that thread!
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:02 AM
Also, the way the time and location are written. Some of the slides put the date of June 22 before the time and then the city. Others name the city and then the clock time, omitting the date of June 22. Others have time zone also while others don't. Is that something to take notice of? I think it would or else why not just write them all the same with differing clock times?

8.03.20 = 11 + 2 = 13
8.03.27 = 11 + 9 = 20
8.03.47 = 11 + 11 = 22
8.03.29 = 11 + 11 = 22

Basic addition to get some important numbers.
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 06:16 AM
reply to post by darkest4

If you bothered to actually read the opening posts, then I think it was more than clear that I'm not fear-mongering at all. I've said many times already in fact that I believe this is almost certainly not going to happen and is instead a work of fiction or some sort of experiment to see how people would react.

there's been dozens of ATS threads on this exact subject and this thread brought nothing new to the table.

1.) This is wrote at the bottom of my opening post: "It's also worth pointing out at this time that there's another interesting thread on this subject which you can all find here: The ID on "Operation Blackjack" has a secret message"

I was given permission to start a separate thread though as the content is quite different.

I saw that there was other thread's on this topic so I sent an alert, asked if I could make a thread of my own and later that evening I got a PM from a mod who told me it's fine to write it up and post.

2.) I never once said I was bringing anything new to the table as well, that's your own mistake here. What you'll find I did say however was I find this topic quite interesting and I wanted to create an interesting discussion on it too.

Not everything has to be a conspiracy folks, sorry.

Again, read the opening post - I think it made it quite clear how skeptical I was.

It really is annoying to see people post who have clearly read nothing from the opening post.

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 07:01 AM
OP, unlike some (no offense to those individuals intended!) I read and acknowledge that you aren't making any factual assertions as to the meaning of the Blackjack slideshow/story. So please don't take this is a suggestion that you did or are.

But for those who do believe it portends a real event (which, I will likewise clarify that I am not saying is impossible or is or isn't true one way or another,) some thoughts:

Ardent Sentry is a joint force readiness exercise conducted every year.

It wasn't unique to the year Blackjack broke, the year its original countdown timer indicated, or the following year. Nothing happened in any of those years.

Every time the timer and circumstances have changed, as years have passed, people have tried to reinterpret Blackjack anew. Likewise, the slides have even been updated once or twice to reflect leadership changes in the UK and elsewhere.

First people suggested it might portend large scale nuclear strikes on major population centers coinciding with the Ardent Sentry exercises. Then people said it would be retaliation for Osama bin Laden's death. Then people said it would be some dirty bombs used to justify further military engagement around the world.

I respect everyone's opinions and do not reject any of these as possibilities. But I must also acknowledge that this continual reinterpretation of the story bears all the hallmarks of cognitive dissonance. Which suggests the possibility that, on some level, people want this to mean something. And if that's so - and I'm not saying it is, but if it is - it could interfere with a rational analysis and consideration of this story/slideshow/prediction/whatever you wish to call it.

As the OP stated themselves, this really could simply be fiction. It doesn't have to be, but the hallmarks of cognitive dissonance and wanting to see something here that might not be seem to be there. Especially as several years have now passed and people are still waiting for something to happen.

Just a suggestion. Peace.
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 09:38 AM
I know its hard to believe. Hell, who would want to believe it?

I feel at this stage in the game, TPTB are literally and figuratively sitting around a table with a map of the globe, playing a high stakes game of RISK, plotting world events like a chess move.

Its naive to think that in this day and age, anything that happens wasnt allowed to happen. Smell me?

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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 11:44 AM
reply to post by Rising Against

S&F Informative and thought provoking read. If it is a game of entertainment purposes or a type of propaganda for awareness. It still clarifies things that could come to fruition. PS you do not come across as scaremongering


posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 12:13 PM

Originally posted by Phenomium
If you stop the video on the fist page at 7:10 (where the ID card is) and run those ID card numbers through an online hexadecimal thanslator there is a message that says "This is not simply entertainment". Despite what it says in english under every picture....that is is nothing but fiction. The hidden code on that ID car says different.
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Wow, awesome find !

posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 12:23 PM
reply to post by Heatrae

i posted way before him a link to a slide show that shows the entire game unfolding, that was merely the first step, all the answers are already provided in my previous posts, it's just a game experiment that was made and run by the sub editor of the telegraph. Here is the link again:
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posted on Jan, 5 2012 @ 12:58 PM
It is obvious they will do a nuclear false-flag to have an excuse to attack Iran if their goading does not work to get Iran mad enough to attack. The most likely target cities in the US will be either Detroit, LA, Chicago, or New York City. The EU cities that would be the likeliest targets would be London, Brussels, Berlin, or Paris.

The yield of the bombs will be in the pathetic excuse for a nuke 1-12kt to give it plausibility. The target areas will be an ethnic ghetto for max human casualty with minimal infrastructure casualty. 6-22-2012 is too late, the econonic collapse will happen by then. Most likely time for it would be before 4-15-2012.

Major changes in market trading volume up or down will be the early warning indicator.

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