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Iran Defence Minister repeats warning to U.S.

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by TheMindWar
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If the arabs in Iran back the Iran gov you bet they will go to war. Iran wont be a pushover like Iraq. Iran are far more technically advanced than Iraq was.


You sure a nice strategically placed nuke over iran would not fix that problem./?

CAN YOU SAY PARKIIIIING LOOOOOT




posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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Arabs in Iran? What Arabs?



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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We must remember that both China and Russia are allies of Iran (with China stating that they would protect Iran, even if it ment WW3).


No, China never said that. Unfortunately, the Iranian leadership seems to have convinced themselves that they did. If Iran should start the war they've been talking themselves in to, Russia and China will sit back and let the US do all the heavy lifting. Then Russia can see to it that all those Russian trained technocrats find themselves in positions of power and influence in the post-war government. Then Russia can extend railway lines across their near abroad to ship goods in and out of Iranian ports at will. They can also establish year round naval bases there. China, meanwhile, will be relieved that their supply of oil will be cheaper and safer once all the international embargoes are lifted.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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Amazing how ignorant folk are isn't it?



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:12 AM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by TheMindWar
reply to post by daaskapital
 


If the arabs in Iran back the Iran gov you bet they will go to war. Iran wont be a pushover like Iraq. Iran are far more technically advanced than Iraq was.


You sure a nice strategically placed nuke over iran would not fix that problem./?

CAN YOU SAY PARKIIIIING LOOOOOT



Thats the last goddamn thing we need...



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:17 AM
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Makes you wonder if Iran is trying to bait the U.S. into moving a large naval force into the Gulf just to have the entire area launch an attack from every side.

You never know, maybe Iran knows that it is only a matter of time before the U.S. invades them just like every other country in the region recently.

In that case, they might just be sitting there with their finger on the nuclear button and waiting... knowing that war is inevitable anyways.

If you had 20 people about to shoot you and you were holding a grenade, wouldn't you pull the pin and take a few out with you?

The U.S. needs to be veeeery careful how they handle this whole situation, and that is before adding Russia or China into the equation.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by DerbyCityLights

Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by TheMindWar
reply to post by daaskapital
 


If the arabs in Iran back the Iran gov you bet they will go to war. Iran wont be a pushover like Iraq. Iran are far more technically advanced than Iraq was.


You sure a nice strategically placed nuke over iran would not fix that problem./?

CAN YOU SAY PARKIIIIING LOOOOOT



Thats the last goddamn thing we need...


Totally agree. The US shouldn't use nukes unless they are directly threatened, as in land invasion, imminent danger



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by YouAreLiedTo

You never know, maybe Iran knows that it is only a matter of time before the U.S. invades them just like every other country in the region recently.


I could have swore that there were more than Iraq and Afghanistan in the region...



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by DerbyCityLights


Originally posted by YouAreLiedTo

You never know, maybe Iran knows that it is only a matter of time before the U.S. invades them just like every other country in the region recently.


I could have swore that there were more than Iraq and Afghanistan in the region...


Star for you!



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:22 AM
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Exactly. There is no reason for a nuke to be used at this time or at any time in the near future that I foresee.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:32 AM
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Originally posted by DerbyCityLights
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If Iran instigated the attack, it would be tantamount to suicide for their regime.


with china and russia backing them, I think it would mean that they are really crazy, but not suicidal. anyone who has the capability to fight should not be counted out until all is said and done.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:35 AM
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*Added Note*

I have a very bad feeling that N. Korea is going to start talks with Iran soon. Un was educated abroad and has a much wider view of the world than his father did.

If N. Korea and Iran sign a mutual protection pact, it would put the entire world on high alert.

Hell I would go as far to say that if N. Korea and Iran signed a pact, it would be the first step towards WW3. It would give the NK's the backing they have been seeking for years to finally annex the South, and it would escalate from there.

As a matter of fact, if they ever sign a protection pact, I'm moving to Switzerland...



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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Agreed more empty rhetoric , they weren't supposed to repeat. Russia and China will do nothing if Iran gets attacked. Same thing when Russia attacked Georgia. We sat back and did nothing, but condemn. Besides big deal if Russia and China are tag teaming. The US isn't alone either, you talk as if your governments would just watch a fight between three world powers and not be involved.

Stop trying to talk up Iran's military like they are something to be afraid of they went to war with Iraq for 8 years. Granted they were winning but 8 years in what took us a night to wipe out. There is no part of their military that's scary besides a nuclear scenario.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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Believe me, Im not counting them out by any means. I think they have the ability to cause some damage but they do not have the ability to win a war against the US military by themselves. I still do not believe that any major military country would back them in an overt instigation of war.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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Originally posted by DerbyCityLights


Originally posted by YouAreLiedTo

You never know, maybe Iran knows that it is only a matter of time before the U.S. invades them just like every other country in the region recently.


I could have swore that there were more than Iraq and Afghanistan in the region...


Iraq, Iran, Pakistan... and Afghanistan is only 200 miles from the coast...

That only leaves the Saudi's and the UAE on the coast. Ok you are right, we haven't invaded TWO of them YET.

And please, don't think the Saudi's or the UAE are going to stop anyone from attacking us if it ever happens...

Get your head out of your #... we have screwed the pooch on diplomatic ties in the REGION.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:46 AM
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Interesting thing is that its Election Year in the the US. This is generally a preferred time for other countries to test the integrity of the US Foreign Policies and the POTUS to its limit. This can go either way depending on the existing POTUS. Just before the election is when we might see some decisive events unfolding that might affect the outcome of the election.

Lets see what September 2012 brings.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:47 AM
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Hell I would go as far to say that if N. Korea and Iran signed a pact, it would be the first step towards WW3. It would give the NK's the backing they have been seeking for years to finally annex the South, and it would escalate from there.


If only Iran could bust out of the Strait of Hormuz. Then fight its way down the Molluccan Strait. Then past the Chinese who would consider the Iranians to be poaching on their turf. No problem, Iran is invincible, isn't it?



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by MrStyx

Stop trying to talk up Iran's military like they are something to be afraid of they went to war with Iraq for 8 years. Granted they were winning but 8 years in what took us a night to wipe out. There is no part of their military that's scary besides a nuclear scenario.

How arrogant do you want to be? No one should underestimate any other country's power.

Um, you do know that we also had the recent Iraq War which also went for 8 years lmao



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:17 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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Hell I would go as far to say that if N. Korea and Iran signed a pact, it would be the first step towards WW3. It would give the NK's the backing they have been seeking for years to finally annex the South, and it would escalate from there.


If only Iran could bust out of the Strait of Hormuz. Then fight its way down the Molluccan Strait. Then past the Chinese who would consider the Iranians to be poaching on their turf. No problem, Iran is invincible, isn't it?


It has nothing to do with physical boot-on-the-ground forces if these two countries ever decided to make a go together...

They are both nuclear capable countries that don't need a physical army to get their work done.

And please, N. Korea wouldn't need Iran's help to take out S. Korea... They have over a million troops just waiting for the march order. And Iran could detonate a nuke in Israel at any time they feel convenient...

It doesn't matter if NK has anything against Israel or if Iran has anything against SK... it's all about the possibility of dragging half the planet into a war if either of them decide to act. Desperate people do desperate things...

Just the possibility of either of those would put the world on the highest nuclear alert since the cold war...



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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All that the Persian apostate leaders want is simply to spark the markets to raise the price of oil using the threats on shipping. They arent idiots and know they are no match for the world, nor will the world trample on them unless fully provoked.

With the rise in oil, many other struggling nations or smugglers will attempt to buy from them then, and raise their revenues to circumvent the international sanctions.

It ain't working and aint gonna work in the long or short run. Those persian apostates will have to try harder, such as blowing the US aircraft carrier into bits, then, once and for all, the persian empire will cease to exist finally in 2012, when the bombs start falling.

A case of the shopkeeper threatening to shoot passer-bys who passes through the road nearby his shopfront even though he owns only a parking lot there and not the entire road. If this shop was in Somalia, I'll bet the shopkeeper would have been strung up, hung and left to dry. Fortunately the world is more civilised.

May the Persians be wise,end the foolish pride, and get back on the negotiating table for the sake of peace and the sake of millions of innocent lives around the world and in Persia.
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