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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by WarminIndy
Has God cast His own people? God forbid.
Yes he did. He scattered them to the winds because of what they did to Yahshua and allowed Jerusalem to be destroyed. The entire reason behind their exile these last 2000 years was a punishment to them because their pride has always been their downfall and it remains so even to this day although some are sporadically beginning to awaken and accept the Messiah.
There was a rabbi who died in 2005 at the age of 110 (i know he was over 100) and he claimed to have had a dream of the Lord and he said that the Messiah gave him a prophecy, that after Areol Sharon dies the Messiah would soon return (Sharon had a stroke sometime later and has been in a coma for several years on life support) and he told the rabbi his name and that name the rabbi wrote down and had it sealed for 1 year until after his death and the name was Yeshua the aramaic name of Jesus and probably one of his truer names. This prophecy could by why they keep Sharon alive on life support. This prophecy was given by a jewish orthodox rabbi and they do not even acknowledge Christ and it has caused quite an uproar but most of the orthodox students claim that is surely is an error...
Man are they thick.
Matthew 26: 8Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he: hold him fast. 49And forthwith he came to Jesus, and said, Hail, master; and kissed him. 50And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus and took him. 51And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest's, and smote off his ear. 52Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword. 53Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? 54But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be? 55In that same hour said Jesus to the multitudes, Are ye come out as against a thief with swords and staves for to take me? I sat daily with you teaching in the temple, and ye laid no hold on me. 56But all this was done, that the scriptures of the prophets might be fulfilled. Then all the disciples forsook him, and fled. 57And they that had laid hold on Jesus led him away to Caiaphas the high priest, where the scribes and the elders were assembled. 58But Peter followed him afar off unto the high priest's palace, and went in, and sat with the servants, to see the end. 59Now the chief priests, and elders, and all the council, sought false witness against Jesus, to put him to death; 60But found none: yea, though many false witnesses came, yet found they none. At the last came two false witnesses, 61And said, This fellow said, I am able to destroy the temple of God, and to build it in three days. 62And the high priest arose, and said unto him, Answerest thou nothing? what is it which these witness against thee? 63But Jesus held his peace, And the high priest answered and said unto him, I adjure thee by the living God, that thou tell us whether thou be the Christ, the Son of God. 64Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven. 65Then the high priest rent his clothes, saying, He hath spoken blasphemy; what further need have we of witnesses? behold, now ye have heard his blasphemy. 66What think ye? They answered and said, He is guilty of death.
John 11:47Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles. 48If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation. 49And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year, said unto them, Ye know nothing at all, 50Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for the people, and that the whole nation perish not. 51And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation; 52And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together in one the children of God that were scattered abroad. 53Then from that day forth they took counsel together for to put him to death.
Originally posted by jmdewey60
reply to post by Omphale
wondered if anyone on this thread has considered the relevence of the story of Jesus and the women of Jacob's Well? I feel that there is an allegorical meaning to 'Jacob's Well'...and his struggle with the angel which is relevent to the discussion here.
There is in that this story in John ties the Samaritans in as being Israelites.
I don't think the well itself has anything to do with that struggle, it is just the relationship between the tribe of Judah and the other tribes.