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Hebrews and Muslims living Peacefully together in the Holy Bible

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posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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I came across a rather obscure topic that many Muslims, Christians, and even Jews don't seem to want to talk about....and possibly never even HEARD about!

Here is the situation and time line for the subject at hand:

1. Ezekiel 47:13-21 --- Shows how the land of the middle east is to be divided unto the tribes of Israel during the Millennium. Now, if I have already lost you, don't bother posting in this thread as you are not the intended and targeted audience.

2. Verses 22-23 show a rather STRANGE and unspoken provision God makes for the current Muslims living in this land. The verses are found below ↓


Ezekiel 47:21-23
21 So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of Israel.
22 And it shall come to pass, that ye shall divide it by lot for an inheritance unto you, and to the strangers that sojourn among you, which shall beget children among you: and they shall be unto you as born in the country among the children of Israel; they shall have inheritance with you among the tribes of Israel.
23 And it shall come to pass, that in what tribe the stranger sojourneth, there shall ye give him his inheritance, saith the Lord GOD.


Did you see that? God not only gives the land for an inheritance to Israel's tribes, He ALSO gives the land to the STRANGERS that are presently in the land sojourning there!

Now who are the inhabitants of this land that these "strangers" are said to be? Why the borders of the land are laid out in verses 13-21 which I will post in the next section so you can read yourself. For time sake though, the land is:

Egypt, Current Israel (including ALL disputed lands), Jordan, Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Iraq. This is the land promised to Abraham and to the twelve tribes of Israel.

-------The people that live in these lands at the moment are Muslims. Now read verses 22-23 again.

God has always had a plan to allow both of these great Nations to live together in Harmony, side by side, and in agreement. Not only that, but the United Nations outlined a plan in 1917 to allow an Israeli State And a Palestinian State to be formed.

---------The Muslims rejected it because they did not want to live with the Jews. They are RACISTS and Discriminators, clear as can be. So the Jews rejected their State as well since they did not want to live where they were not wanted.

After WWII however, the Jews were MORE than willing to have their own State back to avoid another Holocaust....the Lord works in mysterious ways huh? And yes, God was directly responsible for the Holocaust. You can bet your last dollar on that.

**********In conclusion, the Jews and Arabs will live together in peace one day...(more on this in second post!)...but only during the Millennium. Until then, you can expect at least 3 more major world wars to take place, all dealing with Israel.




posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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The outline and borders of all of Israel's land: (with notes from me)

Ezekiel 47:13-21
13 Thus saith the Lord GOD; This shall be the border, whereby ye shall inherit the land according to the twelve tribes of Israel: Joseph shall have two portions.

(notice all of Israel and not just the tribe of Judah, the Israel of God, British Israelite, etc and so on)

14 And ye shall inherit it, one as well as another: concerning the which I lifted up mine hand to give it unto your fathers: and this land shall fall unto you for inheritance.
15 And this shall be the border of the land toward the north side, from the great sea, the way of Hethlon, as men go to Zedad;

(border starts in Israel and goes up following the "great sea", which is the Mediterranean Sea. The land will form a PYRAMID once the borders connect)

16 Hamath, Berothah, Sibraim, which is between the border of Damascus and the border of Hamath; Hazarhatticon, which is by the coast of Hauran.
17 And the border from the sea shall be Hazarenan, the border of Damascus, and the north northward, and the border of Hamath. And this is the north side.

(Southern Turkey, where Mt. Ararat is, Noah's Ark)

18 And the east side ye shall measure from Hauran, and from Damascus, and from Gilead, and from the land of Israel by Jordan, from the border unto the east sea. And this is the east side.

("East sea"..the Persian Gulf, where the Euphrates and Hiddekel Rivers meet as found in Genesis describing the Garden of Eden's borders as well.....hint, hint)

19 And the south side southward, from Tamar even to the waters of strife in Kadesh, the river to the great sea. And this is the south side southward.

(waters of strife in Kadesh, the river to the great sea" The Egyptian Nile that goes to the Mediterranean Sea.)

20 The west side also shall be the great sea from the border, till a man come over against Hamath. This is the west side.

(connecting the Pyramid is "Hamath" as found in verse 15.)

21 So shall ye divide this land unto you according to the tribes of Israel.

(Yes they shall, or God is a liar.)

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As for the verses with God always having a plan for the Arabs and Hebrews to live together as I said I would post, here are a few to chew on:


Isaiah 19:22-25
22 And the LORD shall smite Egypt: he shall smite (Second Advent, Revelation 19, Ezk 30, 31, 32 etc) and heal it: (Millennium) and they shall return even to the LORD, and he shall be intreated of them, and shall heal them.
23 In that day shall there be a highway out of Egypt to Assyria, and the Assyrian shall come into Egypt, and the Egyptian into Assyria, and the Egyptians shall serve with the Assyrians.
24 In that day shall Israel be the third with Egypt and with Assyria, even a blessing in the midst of the land: (The 3 big Nations during the Millennium)
25 Whom the LORD of hosts shall bless, saying, Blessed be EGYPT MY people, and Assyria the work of my hands, and Israel mine inheritance.
(Ezk 47:21-23)

Notice these Nations, Egypt and Assyria, are the border Nations of the land mentioned above? I have some more to show, but this will do for now. This is a lot to chew for a few days.
edit on 3-1-2012 by KJV1611 because: More verses



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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IMO...Land can belong to no man, we just borrow it from Mother Nature while we are here.

Wars over land are wars against the true owner.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 05:42 PM
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Good thread S&F

Show it to all Religious folk please.

AND stop all your silly "My dad is bigger than your dad" stuff and live together in peace, so us non religious will not be caught up in your cross fire.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 05:45 PM
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Wasn't Islam created several centuries after the new testament was written?

Second.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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IMO...Land can belong to no man, we just borrow it from Mother Nature while we are here.

Wars over land are wars against the true owner.


Your right, the land in the middle East belongs to God...it always has:


ISAIAH 14:25
"That I will break the Assyrian in MY LAND, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders. "

JEREMIAH 2:7
"And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled MY LAND, and made mine heritage an abomination."



Ever wonder why God told Moses to take his shoes off because he was on HOLY GROUND??? Because the ground Moses was standing on.....belonged to God. And He does with it what soever He wills.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:00 PM
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AND stop all your silly "My dad is bigger than your dad" stuff and live together in peace, so us non religious will not be caught up in your cross fire.


That's what this thread is all about! To show that one day, Arab and Jew will live together in peace.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Wasn't Islam created several centuries after the new testament was written?


Yes, but that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. The people that live in the land we are talking about are 99% Muslim. That's why I use the word Muslim....but after the Millennium starts...there will be no religions on earth, at all. Hints why I keep using the word "Arabs" or people that live in Arabia for short.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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I read once that nobody really knows how things first went south between the Jews and the Muslims, but supposedly it was a feud over a sheep or a goat.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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The Muslims rejected it because they did not want to live with the Jews. They are RACISTS and Discriminators, clear as can be. So the Jews rejected their State as well since they did not want to live where they were not wanted.


Your wrong here. The reason they rejected it is because the Palestinians land was stolen from them and the people were turned into refugees. Jews and Arabs had been living together there for centuries It wasn't until Israel started ethnic cleansing the land that didn't belong to them is when the trouble started.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by isyeye
 



IMO...Land can belong to no man, we just borrow it from Mother Nature while we are here.

Wars over land are wars against the true owner.


Your right, the land in the middle East belongs to God...it always has:


ISAIAH 14:25
"That I will break the Assyrian in MY LAND, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders. "

JEREMIAH 2:7
"And I brought you into a plentiful country, to eat the fruit thereof and the goodness thereof; but when ye entered, ye defiled MY LAND, and made mine heritage an abomination."


Ever wonder why God told Moses to take his shoes off because he was on HOLY GROUND??? Because the ground Moses was standing on.....belonged to God. And He does with it what soever He wills.


If you examine your statement, you will see that you have just discovered that the Christian "God" is the EARTH.

Congrats.......you are on your way to understanding the true meaning of the words of the bible.

(I know you'll disregard this, but there is more truth in this than you realize)
edit on 3-1-2012 by isyeye because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:10 PM
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KJV1611--- The Muslims rejected it because they did not want to live with the Jews. They are RACISTS and Discriminators, clear as can be. So the Jews rejected their State as well since they did not want to live where they were not wanted.



Your wrong here. The reason they rejected it is because the Palestinians land was stolen from them and the people were turned into refugees. Jews and Arabs had been living together there for centuries It wasn't until Israel started ethnic cleansing the land that didn't belong to them is when the trouble started.


Now, now, now, you know good and well that no "ethnic cleaning" ever took place in Palestine. Now the Muslims have said over and over again for the past 60 years that there is nothing they would desire more than to kill ALL Jews (and Christians...Americans....shiites....etc)

The Jews did however kick their own people out of their land during Bush's reign..... Your blind on these facts bud. And by the way, the Jews offered multiple times for the people living in Israel when they begin their State to STAY and live with them! Many did, hints why Jerusalem is divided.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:12 PM
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So God....created Himself??? Genesis 1:1......Read it some time and explain your theory afterward



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:16 PM
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oh boy more religious crap....just to let you know they were no muslims at the time of the bible. You have to travel 600 yrs after Jesus death that Islam was founded. So how can you say muslims are mentioned in the bible....



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:19 PM
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oh boy more religious crap....just to let you know they were no muslims at the time of the bible. You have to travel 600 yrs after Jesus death that Islam was founded. So how can you say muslims are mentioned in the bible....


I have already answered this just two posts above
The point is.....WHAT RELIGION does the CURRENT inhabitants of the Middle East (Which is the land God gave to Israel) belong too? Can you grasp this concept??

These people living in this land are STRANGERS as they are not Hebrews.......now...think hard....what is the religion of the people that live in the middle east right now. I know you can do this!!



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:20 PM
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I have read it many, many times.....Yes, "God" created "God". It was in the duality created from light and dark that "God", shall we say realized loneliness, and compressed the Light of Chaos to create "life".

In the beginning "God" created heaven and the earth, so there are only two things that existed. The earth and heaven. "God" is both, and both are the total of "God".



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by KJV1611
reply to post by Trolloks
 



Wasn't Islam created several centuries after the new testament was written?


Yes, but that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. The people that live in the land we are talking about are 99% Muslim. That's why I use the word Muslim....but after the Millennium starts...there will be no religions on earth, at all. Hints why I keep using the word "Arabs" or people that live in Arabia for short.


But the ones living in that land at the point this was written where not Muslim, for Islam was yet to be written many centuries after, its quite ignorant to claim that everyone in the middle east are Muslim, there are Jews living around there too, even in Iran.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by KJV1611
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oh boy more religious crap....just to let you know they were no muslims at the time of the bible. You have to travel 600 yrs after Jesus death that Islam was founded. So how can you say muslims are mentioned in the bible....


I have already answered this just two posts above
The point is.....WHAT RELIGION does the CURRENT inhabitants of the Middle East (Which is the land God gave to Israel) belong too? Can you grasp this concept??

These people living in this land are STRANGERS as they are not Hebrews.......now...think hard....what is the religion of the people that live in the middle east right now. I know you can do this!!


I am not going to into a pathrtic religious debate in which your only source is the bible. The bible may contain some historic truths about politics and other stuff but to use it as a claim for land is plainly ridiculous. The jews lost their land because they couldnt live in peace with any other groups of people. Thats why they were persecuted by the romans and thats why the Romans had had enough of their crap and tore down their temples.After the Jews were displaced the remaining people slowly converted to christanity and it was in 300ad Constantine converted to Christanity and the middle east became a hotspot for christian followers including the gnostics. Other religions was around at the time and it wasnt till 600ad that others converted to Islam. When the muslims conqured Syria 100 years later in 700ad IT was from that point Palestein was an Muslim Nation with no israel existing till 60yrs ago. So it belongs to the Palesteins and not Jews



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:53 PM
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But the ones living in that land at the point this was written where not Muslim, for Islam was yet to be written many centuries after, its quite ignorant to claim that everyone in the middle east are Muslim, there are Jews living around there too, even in Iran.


Hints why I use the word Arabs from time to time. And since when did 99% constitute "everyone" as you claim? The other 1% would be the Jews. Now these are not exact figures but that is ALL besides the point of the thread to begin with! Did you even bother reading the very point of the thread before you jumped into semantic bickering?



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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So it belongs to the Palesteins and not Jews

Did you not read your own post that went along with your statement? You gave a short history of Israel saying they were in the LAND first...then you said the above? Are you confused?



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