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You can already tell that Ron Paul will win the Iowa caucus decisively.

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:26 AM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by beanandginger
 


Another failed prediction on ATS! Shocking!


I guess continuously saying "RP will win" just wasn't enough to actually make it happen.


here's a prediction for you. if ron paul doesn't become the potus, we will go to war with iran. if you are a soldier, hope you are one of the first ones to get deployed there to get used like usual...




posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:32 AM
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3rd place is not futile. It means he can leverage a 3rd party go against the party.


Put yourself in their eyes, Paul's 3rd place win means that if he were to go 3rd party....and lets say Trump ran too to contest this. Well that would probably make Santorum win the Nomination, with Newt in VP.

Trump, Obama, Paul, Santorum, Trump.

Do you not see?

An election of political extremists.


...They loose control.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:35 AM
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What makes you think that?
Predictions have him being lucky if he walks with 5% of the vote.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:37 AM
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lol... i doubt you are part of that 1%. if we go down, you go down with us. don't get so happy there buddy.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:49 AM
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I doubt Santorum will get the nomination. If he does, gays across the country are going to do any and everything they can to spite and ruin him.

I predict Romney; they will argue that he's the only one who has stayed consistent within the polling, almost every other candidate polls high for a week or two then comes crashing down.

As the ad on Comedy Central says, "when you see who's running, you'll run too."



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:52 AM
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3rd place may not be futile in terms of getting the nomination, it certainly is good exposure for him in a lackluster field. But all a third party candidate will do is fracture the Republican vote ensuring a win for Obama. And Ron Paul knows this, so he will not run if he fails to get the nomination.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:54 AM
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Romney cannot get much higher than 25% of the vote, and if you've been watching Newt, he's tying in a deal to throw his hat in with Santorum. His speech today basically said that he's quitting if he looses like this again and supporting Santorum. If Santorum and Newt are in the same camp, either one could be P/ VP. And the Republicans will probably choose the younger for the nomination, because that's how it goes.


God willing, the gays will succeed. Santorum reminds me way to much of Hitler if he never went to war and graduated from art school.
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 03:15 AM
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To be honest. Obama would probably be better and ore stable than Santorum or Romney.

Obama has ended one war and not caused any serious entry into a new one. Thins aren't dandy, they are meh. But with Romney or Santorum, there will be war.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 03:42 AM
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You can already tell this thread's title failed hard.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 03:56 AM
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Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
You can already tell this thread's title failed hard.


This is typical ATS. False predictions, and threads that are debunked and refuse to die



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 05:26 AM
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As soon as i heard rupert murdoch had tweeted his support for santorum ... well ... makes sense newt would default to him



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 06:14 AM
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Ron Paul got an equal number of delegates as Romney or Santorum - the three tied with delegates.

Go Ron!

businessinsider ... Ron Paul May Have Secretly Won The Iowa Caucuses
edit on 4-1-2012 by MegaMind because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 07:23 AM
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It does not matter how many people want him in office, it will not be allowed to happen.
You cannot guarantee a free and fair election, they have been stolen before to put their choice in power, all ron paul is doing is to be a tool to provide legitimacy to a process that is deeply fraudulent and from which people would feel incredibly disenfranchised if ronnie wasn't there to provide a sticking plaster to the peoples sense of fair play.
He is bringing the people who are most dissaffected into the political arena.
I keep saying that you are going to get exactly what you deserve because you keep playing the game.
fool me once shame on you, fool me every four years and i'm the biggest moron walking.
I have never voted and i never will, i do not respect the sense of legitimacy a government garners from having hoodwinked people time and time again by promising things they know people want to make their lives better, to determinedly blight those same people with draconian laws and outright breaches of "Election Pledges".
They cannot keep a promise and every-time an election comes round you all get involved giving your candid agreement that you will again suffer the consequences of giving away your responsibilities to those who are clearly the most bloodthirsty and irresponsible of all of us, to rule again for, four more years.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 07:26 AM
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Ha! True.


Funny how that is. Good eye to catch it!

It's those little connect-the-dots that really lets you predict accurately what politicians are bought and by who.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 07:28 AM
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I do not believe this generation of leadership has the guts to manipulate elections.

There are times when the leadership is very suspicious and probably has, but it honestly has always had its reasons, and usually they are logical.


But take Kennedy for example. He was his time's Ron Paul. Of course, that generation had the guts to kill. Now I don't believe Kennedy was assassinated by nefarious purposes. But I can see how such behind-the-scenes placement and timing can indirectly cause it.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:14 AM
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What this tells me is the the GOP is split three ways.

The traditional GOP base is going for the Charismatic, electable Romney or the Harder line San...basically the same old same old.

The swing voters though want to go a different route, they want RP and to take the country down a different route.

It sounds like RP awakened a block voters to his ideas and that is a good thing. However it is likely that if this trend continutes the support will fall away and RP will have to choose between running independant or not at all.

In the long run though I think this will translate to a victory for the Democrates and four more years of the "same old-same old" in DC regardless who wins.

Last thoughts are that RP is getting old and this is probably his last run for the Oval. Who is his heir on the political landscape? His son?



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:20 AM
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This is a wonderful day!!!!
Ron Paul is done. Finished. Over.

He would have needed to finish in the top two to make a name for himself, anything else is a huge failure. Now that Rick Santorum and Romney have finished so well in the Iowa Caucus, it is now a two man race. Everyone else is finished. By Ron Paul. Maybe next time.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:30 AM
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Originally posted by kellynap43
This is a wonderful day!!!!
Ron Paul is done. Finished. Over.

He would have needed to finish in the top two to make a name for himself, anything else is a huge failure. Now that Rick Santorum and Romney have finished so well in the Iowa Caucus, it is now a two man race. Everyone else is finished. By Ron Paul. Maybe next time.


Yes a wonderful day, more of our kids being sent to fight wars not about freedom. More uncontrolled spending from a bankrupt nation.. What a sick mindset.

Wonderful indeed.
edit on 4-1-2012 by ker2010 because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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I'm ok with Romney winning it. I have no idea who the other guy is to be honest. The fact Ron Paul finished 3rd and just 4% back is a win. It means his campaign is working. He has been black balled by the media from the beginning but yet he was still able to pull in 21% of the votes? That says a lot. I'm not sure if Paul will win it but as I thought 4 years ago Romney may be the front runner.

Romney fits the pedigree of a JFK...and people like that look.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 09:04 AM
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Everyone needs to keep in mind that the Iowa caucuses are non-binding and that delegates are free to choose who they nominate later at the RNC.

Delegate count is actually more important.

From Business Insider (link posted earlier)



Sources close to the Paul campaign indicated Tuesday that they were happy with their delegate count. Although we couldn't get specific numbers, a source told Business Insider that Paul nailed down the delegates in all of Iowa's smaller counties, and made a strong showing in several larger ones. Read more: www.businessinsider.com...






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