Huge News! Obama Must Prove Eligibility in Court Now as Motion to Dismiss is DENIED., page 3


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reply posted on 3-1-2012 @ 06:16 PM by sealing
reply to post by Praetorius



The reason I say that he is the best anti-establishment candidate I know is not
very obvious but is becauseif Ron Paul is president,the mega-corporations
(establishment) are going to love that man.
No regulations to burden them in any form .
Only white people need apply? Check. Poison water air? With the EPA
gone,check. Child labor? Why not? Check. The list goes on and on,
The market won't correct Crap.


reply posted on 3-1-2012 @ 06:32 PM by Praetorius
Originally posted by sealing
reply to
post by Praetorius

The reason I say that he is the best anti-establishment candidate I know is not
very obvious but is becauseif Ron Paul is president,the mega-corporations
(establishment) are going to love that man.
No regulations to burden them in any form .
Only white people need apply? Check. Poison water air? With the EPA
gone,check. Child labor? Why not? Check. The list goes on and on,
The market won't correct Crap.

Valid concerns, but applied inappropriately from what I can see. The mega-corporations already LOVE Obama, and along with the mega-banks donate much more heavily to him than they do to Paul (I'd have to look, but I don't recall seeing the big banks on the list of Paul's donors at all, and no PAC money).

As far as regulations, have you ever stopped to ask yourself why there's a revolving door policy between big business and the regulatory agencies? Why they swap so many execs and employees? Why the regulations seem crafted more as insulation than anything else, to buffer big business by choking out small competition while either crafting the regulations to their liking, or setting the fines high enough that only they can afford to pay and ignore the regulations they violate? Why the regulatory agencies delete investigatory records on big business?

Wrong on the EPA - Paul's a very strong advocate of private property rights (and the president can't get rid of the EPA anyway, nor is such in Paul's proposed budget), meaning NO one is allowed to pollute anyone else's property even indirectly via water cycles. As well, I would assume most states already have Departments of Environmental Quality (like Oklahoma does), or the like. Non-issue.

Child labor? You're kidding me. Do you think people in the states are going to approve that? You've got a much sadder view of the american people than even I do, in that case, and I would assume there are likely already plenty of state and federal laws in place for such a thing. And again - what does that have to do with the office of the president? The president can VETO legislation - he can't undo it.

Come on, pay attention to your civics lessons. Looks like you've already been bamboozled into thinking they haven't set things up just the way they want them. What do their profits look like, again? Cleaning the stifling regulatory climate and UNprotecting these jerks from actual new competition is the only real way to start setting things right.

Your misunderstandings are understandable, though - this is the narrative they sell you to keep their schemes up. Follow the money...who gets it: Paul...or Obama?
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reply posted on 3-1-2012 @ 06:36 PM by WTFover
Originally posted by cuervo
Maybe it's because I don't live in a rural backwater with a homogeneous populace...


Coming from someone throwing around the "racist" accusations, that comment is as blatantly bigoted as one can get. Kinda destroys any credibility you thought you had.

...but I don't question a person's citizenship based on a name or ethnic background.


Article II Sec. 1 of the U.S. Constitution
No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

www.law.cornell.edu...

What criteria would you use to ensure the sanctity of the Constitution? What would cause you to want a candidate to provide incontrovertible evidence he/she is a "natural born citizen"? How about having been a resident of the U.S. for fourteen years? And what about his/her meeting the age requirement?

Were the claims by Obama's Kenyan relatives not enough for you to believe questions were in order?

Personally, I believe the Constitution mandates every state demand proof of natural citizenship, proof of age and proof of residency, prior to any candidate being placed on a ballot.



reply posted on 3-1-2012 @ 06:40 PM by Aggie Man
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
reply to
post by Aggie Man



There are four docket numbers for the decision:

OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-1215136-60-MALIHI

OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-1215137-60-MALIHI

OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-1216218-60-MALIHI

OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-1216823-60-MALIHI

Here is the actual document.

A decision does not require a hearing.


Would you (or anyone else) care to provide me a link to this same decision, in which, this document is hosted by the official state agency? I don't trust Orly...and the link you provided is just as suspect.


Still waiting...

P.S.

ATS staff (those whom have not participated in this hoax thread)...so, tell me....when, or at what point, does a hoax get moved to the appropriate forum? I mean, I've provided evidence that this is a hoax (per the staff alert I submitted 2+ hours ago). Up to the time I drafted this response, The OP, believers of this hoax and the entire WWW have given zero proof that this is, in deed, a topic that is based in reality. So, again I must ask, when do you pull the "hoax" trigger?


reply posted on 3-1-2012 @ 06:43 PM by sonnny1
reply to post by Aggie Man



Unfortunately, Some States dont post daily with their docket information,sometimes taking weeks,or if its a special case,wont post it at all.. I would give it a week or two,before you can "officially" call it a hoax.


reply posted on 3-1-2012 @ 06:46 PM by Aggie Man
Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to
post by Aggie Man



Unfortunately, Some States dont post daily with their docket information,sometimes taking weeks,or if its a special case,wont post it at all.. I would give it a week or two,before you can "officially" call it a hoax.



Ummm, yeah, but...in the mean time...some random, unverified website already has obtained the official court document. FAIL...NEXT.

NOT ONLY THAT, but ATS is well versed in moving threads into HOAX when no immediate proof is available...sometimes "proof" is provided at a later date. What's the harm of doing the same here? Honestly, I would believe this story except the only sources on ATS and the www are ALL right-wing blogs/shills and the website of a known hoaxer (Orly).

Where's the beef?
edit on 3-1-2012 by Aggie Man because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 3-1-2012 @ 06:46 PM by cuervo
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Originally posted by Aggie Man
Originally posted by Mirthful Me
reply to
post by Aggie Man



There are four docket numbers for the decision:

OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-1215136-60-MALIHI

OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-1215137-60-MALIHI

OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-1216218-60-MALIHI

OSAH-SECSTATE-CE-1216823-60-MALIHI

Here is the actual document.

A decision does not require a hearing.


Would you (or anyone else) care to provide me a link to this same decision, in which, this document is hosted by the official state agency? I don't trust Orly...and the link you provided is just as suspect.


Still waiting...

P.S.

ATS staff (those whom have not participated in this hoax thread)...so, tell me....when, or at what point, does a hoax get moved to the appropriate forum? I mean, I've provided evidence that this is a hoax (per the staff alert I submitted 2+ hours ago). Up to the time I drafted this response, The OP, believers of this hoax and the entire WWW have given zero proof that this is, in deed, a topic that is based in reality. So, again I must ask, when do you pull the "hoax" trigger?


I've asked this before. It fits "hoax" criteria yet...


reply posted on 3-1-2012 @ 06:53 PM by WTFover
reply to post by Aggie Man



I beg to differ. You have no more proved the document a hoax, than anyone else has proved it valid, to you. The date of the issuance of the decision does not have to correspond to the date of the hearing.

There likely wasn't even a hearing, as the Motion to Dismiss was based on plaintiff standing, which the decision explains away.

It may or may not be a fraudulent document, but my friend, you have not proven it so and I hope ATS staff requires more than your claim to declare a thread a "hoax".
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