reply to post by greeneyedleo
IMHO you paint an ideal world scenario that is, at least judging from the number of heavily overweight and obese people (not only in the US), a stark
contrast with the reality we see around us. You have access to a good store which I'm sure helps a lot. Maybe I've lived in all the wrong places but
most stores here in the Netherlands are large supermarket chains. There is the odd green grocers, cheese shop (dutch cheese sux!) and the like but
most food here I think is sold via the large chains. As for prices, welcome to Holland.
I must be fair and say I haven't seen too many fat
children here but then I don't know any people with children either.
Many food problems here in the past years. Beef is not beef, pork is not pork and if you try to buy a Halal (necessary for Muslims) product you are
probably being lied to. Not to mention the virus infected tomatoes...or was it cucumbers? I forgot already. There is also a curious powder available
to manufacturers that, when added to meat, does something to the DNA. I forget the name but it is used to stop people being able to analyse the food
to tell what animal it came from. A scientist in a lab will not be able to say pork, beef or whatever. This is apparently well used by some firms
although they are all reluctant to discuss it. (There was a docu on TV in the days I had one).
Some produce I buy is grown locally but much is flown/shipped in too according to the labels. I eat no processed foods at all but it is there in
abundance. In fact, unless you are prepared to source herbs and spices yourself to make certain dishes (think chili mix, kebab mixes, etc) then you
will be buying processed herbs and spices. Little taste or aroma and almost no "goodness". 1.50 for 10 grams of paprika, just to give one example. I
wasn't referring to chips and candy by the way, just regular food items such as made by Knorr, bread from bleached and brominated (?) flour, etc. You
are right though, chips and candy are not cheap, here even more so.
I did not deny that lifestyle plays a large part of it but let's be honest, not everyone has the money or opportunity to do it. Inner city single
Mum's of three kids are hard pressed to make ends meet, never mind being able to afford sports clothing, no matter how cheap. Walking a long walk
through a city is not healthy either.
As for moderation, I think society lost that years ago. I don't have children or have much contact with people that do, but I don't think it is always
the parents either, it's more just circumstances and bad luck, possibly. To reiterate, sometimes yes, always no. The food industry does have a lot to
answer for imho, in the name of it's cost/profit studies. Food seems to have been outsourced to a few, large, global players and some of them have
some very shady practices, business and otherwise.
Take a supposedly 3rd world country like India. You won't find too much obesity there. I would guess it is due to low income (dollar a day), lack of
western products and a rich history of varied cuisine on which they can count.
Yer a hard woman!
As for the trampolines, I see them all over here, it's almost like they are back in fashion.
ETA I guess these videos just struck the wrong note with me is all. It seems like a cop out...
edit on 4/1/12 by LightSpeedDriver because: ETA
