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S1698 :: Taking Away Your American Citizenship :: Enemy Expatriation Act

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posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 09:03 AM
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or violating section 2384 of said title by engaging in a conspiracy to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, now here it is,to me the most significant part it talks about the goverment of the united states,not the people or country but the goverment. war declaired on all against the goverment.so how else could a tyrrant gov.be removed?is it not the reasson american can bare arms for?in case of a tyrrant gov.or to defend from other dangers.well it seems the road gets more narrow with every passing laws.hey! why not blatantly deem us all slaves against to the empire.oh yes! them words might offend some,but we will get there.slowly but surelly.if you dought that,would you bet your life on it?
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as bush senior said,(we will have one world order,wether it be by consent or conquest,but we will have one world order)unquote.pack it up,its coming but by treasson of the people placed in the goverment no matter how we slice it.
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posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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who was that great man who said,if we allowed the bankers to issue our currency,we would wake up in the streets one day?not even nationality in our possesion,in other words,not even american entitled to the american heritage.food for tought!



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 09:53 AM
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Even if we kick them out of office the corruption won't end. The only thing that will happen is that the current puppets won't be on the payroll, and some new puppets will take their place. We need to restructure our government entirely, set up new, immaculate foundations and begin rebuilding our once great and respectable nation.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 10:37 AM
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Originally posted by bumpufirst
who was that great man who said,if we allowed the bankers to issue our currency,we would wake up in the streets one day?not even nationality in our possesion,in other words,not even american entitled to the american heritage.food for tought!


That would be Thomas Jefferson.

So, if we lose our citizenship does that mean I can stop paying taxes?


Seriously though, the more of these laws they pass the more they show what their true intent is - to rule us all by decree (those still alive anyway).

IMO it's the government that is seeking to overthrow the people.
So, who is the enemy exactly?



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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that is correct , overthrow the people.is it worth living ? living like cattle stamped and branded.told what or when to eat,sleep,work,dress.wile a minority names them self owners of us all.and if people dont believe that,that a group considers them self as owners of us,just look and listen.earth is looking like a slave mine.next thing we will be imposed a uniform.exagarating?perhaps who thinks so is in denial still.i guess like a junky we need to hit rock bottom.then! it be to late.the dragon has iron teeth,tons of claws,breath of fire,and pearcing sight,no were you can hide.people who invent now days just helps him get stronger.but hey! im jusst ranting like a nutter. perhaps a solar storm to blow it all out would be a good thing,to level the playing feild.after all,thats what all fear,technology.
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posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 11:32 AM
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Maybe someone can explain this so my small mind understands......
What I am getting from all of this is if you are in anyway associated with being a terrorist against the US, even if you are a citizen, you can be prosecuted as such and lose your citizenship.

I'm having a hard time finding a problem with that.

On another note, I also feel that anyone that leaks classified information, should be brought up on charges of treason. But that's just me....



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 11:37 AM
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this does nothing but justify what they have already been doing for the past 10 years, it seems they are giving officers and border patrol the legal support theyve been hounding after since DHS went all darth vader!



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 11:38 AM
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at first look it is not that bad , but then once you see it as it could be used, protesters and ones that go on strike could be deemed as such, and spend a long at Git mo. free speech is also at risk, for what you say could get you a one way trip to Git Mo not to mention all the amendment this over rides



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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I did not see any of what you stated in this.

Please enlighten me.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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LOL

You want it Gov? I already threw it at your feet!

Now what?

Gonna come get me?

Been waiting.

Who wants a worthless rag that has become soiled in innocent blood and weighted down with the plunders of Empire?

Thank you Gov.



Do you hear this world, I AM NOT part of that beast.



The only way you can hurt me by taking away "citizenship" is if you roll up my birth certificate and poke me in the eye with it.

I am still here.

With Love,

Your Brother



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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the words hostile and belligerent, when was the last protest you had seen were this was not the case nor a strike , or a post where one did not lose his her cool now and then. I have many a post stating this. the words are just to open to Interpretation, not everyone will have a copy of the "law of war" in their pocket a drunk could be listed as belligerent, especially if he /she is anti war.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 12:00 PM
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There is differences in the definitions.

There is hostile and belligerent, where it pertains to war and weapons of war,

Then there is hostile and belligerent pertaining to persons anger and desire to fight.

I can see your point. Maybe we should be contacting our reps to ensure the wording is based on war and weapons of war and that changes be made to reflect that.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 12:03 PM
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That's the problem is that all the creepy stuff they've done to take over the country has been hidden under the blanket of "National security".
So when our dear leaders betray the people and subvert the Constitution would it be treason to expose it?



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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reply to post by Submarines
 
have you read the NDAA2012 Sub Sec D 1021 1022?



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 12:11 PM
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I think congress and the administrations over the last decade have already done that, and should be put on trial for treason, but how do you get that to happen? Congress and the President exempt themselves from being brought up on charges of any wrong doing while in office. It is something that needs to be changed. Those that have committed crimes in office need to be prosecuted! (that would be both Dems and Repubs).



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 12:16 PM
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careful, what you say could get you to Git mo bay, just a heads up, here is a link to the 1031 1032 version same thing just 1031 1032 not 1021 1022 www.abovetopsecret.com... this is it here

including any person who has committed a belligerent act or has directly supported such hostilities in aid of such enemy forces.
does it now make sense? here is a link with the 1021 www.abovetopsecret.com...


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posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by DrMattMaddix



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Exactly. And soon they will take your nationality. AGAIN. What is the purpose?

We already have Treason and High Treason laws.

Why does the US government want the ability to STRIP ones nationality/citizenship?

What is the implication? What happens when you become a former US Citizen?

I would first guess that one would be ejected from the country? Obama's uncle is still here so...???


I believe the point is they can make you a person with no country and then can do anything to you they want. If they don't do that I guess they'd have to stick people in a rowboat or something. But as I said I think it's use is to more effectively take control of/ make disappear the people they want.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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All the more reason not to engage in treason


If youre a traitor you should be deported if you werent born here, back to wherever you came from and if you were born here you should be imprisoned. When you raise your hand and swear an oath of allegiance to the U.S. of A you are conciously making the decision to turn your back on your former country and its ways, if you cannot do that and you become a traitor then you should be returned to wherever your lying self came from.

Far as I am concerned no true american citizen would even have a probelm with this issue. Prove yourself unworthy and you can go back to whatever hole you crawled out of.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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i can understand stripping someone of their citizenship if they were born outside the country and became nationalized, but how can you strip someone of their birth right.

you'll be making that person stateless.

barry soetoro really out did himself by not vetoing this bill when it comes to his desk.



posted on Jan, 3 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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The problem is that who is classified as a terrorist these days is pretty willy-nilly. The definition is very open-ended, so any behavior that some random government official doesn't like can get you branded a terrorist and stripped of your citizenship.



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