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Jesus Christ is the son of the one and only God, our creator.

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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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You cannot read the bible with this mentality otherwise you will not gain truth from it.
Real faith is reading it for a good purpose besides what you heard, because no matter what it is the only book which talks about our true creator.




posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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Ive heard enough. Point blank ..when someone starts telling me who the "supreme" man the sky IS........I automatically distrust them. ..


YOUR faerie tale story doesn't weigh much against any one else's faerie tale story .....

What I believe may sound crazy ..but I've never killed anyone over it ..and those that would ..or HAVE ...really have something to answer to



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
You cannot read the bible with this mentality otherwise you will not gain truth from it.
Real faith is reading it for a good purpose besides what you heard, because no matter what it is the only book which talks about our true creator.




What mentality should i read it with ? Close my eyes put my fingers in my ears and yell

LALALALALALALA ?


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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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You should disregard everything you've heard about evil in the bible, and before opening it you should say

"God I want to read this bible for the purpose of knowing you and accepting you as my creator and I ask you to please reveal yourself to me through these holy scriptures. I would also like you to help me increase my faith so that I can have no distractions from evil while seeking you"



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:25 PM
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Evil has come my way. Goodnight folks.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:26 PM
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Riveting tale, chap.

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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:28 PM
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Again another fine example of a satanic cult sugar coated as "christians"


Funny you should call anything satanic.. if you don't believe in the bible at all.

As far as the prayers in faith..and moving mountains..I think some men and women of faith have done miraculous things through their faith.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
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You should disregard everything you've heard about evil in the bible, and before opening it you should say

"God I want to read this bible for the purpose of knowing you and accepting you as my creator and I ask you to please reveal yourself to me through these holy scriptures. I would also like you to help me increase my faith so that I can have no distractions from evil while seeking you"


"God I want to read this bible for the purpose of knowing you and accepting you "


God why is this book so corrupt , edited , and contradictary of an supreme being? Why did you inspire such an idiot book that has so many flaws in it ? only for me to doubt you even exist?

How can you got expect me to take you seriously when you don't even guard your own divine scripture from the dirty hands of man ? If you don't care about the bible why should i care about you ? Afterall the bible is my "guide" to you ?



"I ask you to please reveal yourself to me through these holy scriptures"

Who said its holy ? when you admit it has contradictions and mistakes? lol

God if you need help rewriting the bible i can gladly help you out!


"I would also like you to help me increase my faith so that I can have no distractions from evil while seeking you"


GOd if you want me to increase my faith , please send me a revised final edition of the bible with a stamp of approvel k thnx

I can read where is waldo and find more divine inspiration



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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I can cherry pick which parts i feel are legit , and which are altered does not make it divine nor inspired by god. It makes me a fool to take it seriously.


Of course you are free to "cherry pick" whatever you like...

Not the best way to read the bible though honestly...


Whom was athe nobleman in the parable?


12He said therefore, A certain nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom, and to return.

Its a story... the nobelman is not defined

The story isn't really about the nobelman anyways... its about the servants.

The nobelman can be thought of as God

Its meant to teach a lesson And that is " make the best of what God has given you"

The wicked servant feared his master so much that he saved what was given to him... instead of making the best of what he was given. The other servants (though they hated their master) made him profit with what they were given... some returned 10x the money they were given... another returned 5.

The wicked servant returned the pound he was given... and made nothing of it...

This can represent a mans/womans life as well.... As i've said... make the best of what God gives you, or even... be fruitful



Quite opposite? really ?


Yes really...


but you contradict your self here

"I didn't say "take the entire bible litterally" either... Its very flawed...

The words of Jesus are not flawed.."


Let me make this in clear cut english for you ....


HOW DO I KNOW WHICH ARE JESUS WORDS ? WHICH ARE NOT?


Oh you actually don't know what books His words are found in?

There is no contradiction believe me, his words have no flaws, i've been studying them for many years... there are none as far as i've found.


Backwards logic might work in your head but the buck stops here


Again, a simple misunderstanding...

Read Matthew, Mark, Luke, And John... I thought everyone knew that




posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:32 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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Again another fine example of a satanic cult sugar coated as "christians"


Funny you should call anything satanic.. if you don't believe in the bible at all.

As far as the prayers in faith..and moving mountains..I think some men and women of faith have done miraculous things through their faith.






Oh pleas give me an example thats not a 50/50 chance like most prayers are ?

Can you please tell me one thing gabby?

If i get an amputee to be the best christian in the world.

How many prayers before he gets his limbs back?

Okay god can't do limbs ? np

Okay gabby can you tell me how many prayers will rid someone of cancer?

Can't do cancer?

Okay could you tell me , how many prayers it takes for world peace?

Too much work ?

How about something very simple.


Take a cup of water put it on your table .

I want you to pray every single night for the water to turn bright red .

How many prayers will it take ?

I ask you to get all persons of high faith and try this experiment.

Let me know when such a simple request is fufilled?


Do you know how many poor people rely on faith and prayers? only to be let down over and over again ?

Whats the point of sending a prayer up into the darkness?



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:34 PM
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Cherry picking is clearly your department


Im curious though

who wrote

"Read Matthew, Mark, Luke, And John... I thought everyone knew that"?


If we were to use Matthew , Mark Luke and John in a court of law , and the judge asked me about the authors , what should i say ?



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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If you were god , would you send your son on a suicide mission ? Or find another way like ... sending down a rare unicorn ? that would make me believe far more then a son


Because it had to do with atonement.. it did not have to do with believing there was a God.

The Father was gracious enough to allow part of the trinity to be the atonement for our sins...He basically offered Himself up on the alter of the earth in the holiest of sacrifices for the atonement for mankinds sins.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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"There is no contradiction believe me, his words have no flaws, i've been studying them for many years... there are none as far as i've found. "

Clearly you were drunk when reading it .

www.7commands.com...


When you have your blind goggles on , its a natural byproduct to make such baseless assumptions about new t.

You weren't studying , you were blindly following there is a differnce



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:42 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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If you were god , would you send your son on a suicide mission ? Or find another way like ... sending down a rare unicorn ? that would make me believe far more then a son


Because it had to do with atonement.. it did not have to do with believing there was a God.

The Father was gracious enough to allow part of the trinity to be the atonement for our sins...He basically offered Himself up on the alter of the earth in the holiest of sacrifices for the atonement for mankinds sins.






Show me where trinity is in the bible please.

Secondly Father new son would die , Son knew he would die ?

Suicide mission.

This is alciada not divine inspiration.


Deuteronomy 24:16 The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.


But lets ignore that ?


and read this shall we ?

Jesus didn't die for my sins



You might enjoy get out of jail card , but i don't Jesus to die for my sins .

I don't need god making human sacrafices for my sins

I want to die on my own account and deal with my self.

You disrespect jesus and god and think you are being a good christian .

Terribly sad.


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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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There have been blind people who have had their sight restored by saints. Many many cancers and tumors have miraculously disappeared after prayers of the faithful.

I suggest you read more about Padre Pio..and the 1000's of miracles he performed through his great faith and devotion to Jesus...and it actually wasn't him..it was Jesus.. but it was through a faith so strong that it literally caused many supernatural things to happen.

Padre Pio was a man of such great faith and devotion.. and spent literally hours and hours in the confessional daily for the salvation of souls. Through the power of the Holy Spirit this man could read souls..and no one could get away with lying to him..or tricking him. He could tell people exactly what they were going to confess before they did.

I could go on and on about the miracles that people have testified to.. through the faith in Jesus from very spirit filled people as well as saints.

Because you are not aware of these things happening does not mean they do not happen.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:47 PM
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"1. Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Solomon. Mt.1:6.
Jesus' lineage was traced through David's son Nathan. Lk.3:31.

The announcement of the special birth came before conception. Lk.1:26-31.
The announcement of the special birth came after conception. Mt.1:18-21.
Jesus' parents were told of their son's future greatness. Mt.1:18-21; Lk.1:28-35.
Jesus' parents knew nothing of their son's potential. Lk.2:48-50.
The angel told Joseph. Mt.1:20.
The angel told Mary. Lk.1:28.
There were 28 generations from David to Jesus. Mt.1:17.
There were 43 generations from David to Jesus. Lk.3:23-31.
Jacob was Joseph's father. Mt.1:16.
Heli was Joseph's father. Lk.3:23.
He was to be called Emmanuel. Mt.1:23.
He was called Jesus. Mt.1:25.
Joseph, Mary, and Jesus flee to Egypt while Herod slaughters all males under 2 years old. Mt.2:13-16. (Note: Jesus' cousin, John, was also under 2 and survived without having to flee.)
Joseph, Mary, and Jesus did not flee to Egypt, but remained for temple rituals. No slaughter of infants is mentioned! Lk.2:21-39.
Jesus was tempted during the 40 days in the wilderness. Mk.1:13.
Jesus was tempted after the 40 days in the wilderness. Mt.4:2,3.
The devil first took Jesus to the pinnacle, then to the mountain top. Mt.4:5-8.
The devil first took Jesus to the mountain top, then to the pinnacle. Lk.4:5-9"


www.skeptically.org...



Nope no mistakes here folks . Just keep your goggles on and follow god and jesus



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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There have been blind people who have had their sight restored by saints. Many many cancers and tumors have miraculously disappeared after prayers of the faithful.

I suggest you read more about Padre Pio..and the 1000's of miracles he performed through his great faith and devotion to Jesus...and it actually wasn't him..it was Jesus.. but it was through a faith so strong that it literally caused many supernatural things to happen.

Padre Pio was a man of such great faith and devotion.. and spent literally hours and hours in the confessional daily for the salvation of souls. Through the power of the Holy Spirit this man could read souls..and no one could get away with lying to him..or tricking him. He could tell people exactly what they were going to confess before they did.

I could go on and on about the miracles that people have testified to.. through the faith in Jesus from very spirit filled people as well as saints.

Because you are not aware of these things happening does not mean they do not happen.


Already ahead of ya sweetheart


Please read this and other miracles you think happened.

Pedre Pio Facts


nogodzone.blogspot.com...


Just because its real in your head does not make it reality .


Why christians need to fake it ? if they can't make it ? Its not NASA you know






here is a playlist of christian frauds

www.youtube.com...



Why pretend and believe in something that is not true? All because your fake self rightouness ?

Im sorry





Don't forget history please

en.wikipedia.org...


Why the dirty tricks Christians?

If god was really on your side you don't need so many scandals and scams do you ?


How many can you heal gabby? I'll bring you a blind person , if you can heal him i'll convert deal?
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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:55 PM
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You disrespect jesus and god and think you are being a good christian . Terribly sad.


Please explain to me how you think I am disrespecting Jesus and God?

By the sounds of it you don't believe in either..so how would you even come to know how they are being disrespected?

I do understand where you are coming from in some way on your thought patterns.. but it is something you are not understanding with your spirit.

I pray that Jesus shows you what you need to know..and gives you understanding .



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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You disrespect jesus and god and think you are being a good christian . Terribly sad.


Please explain to me how you think I am disrespecting Jesus and God?

By the sounds of it you don't believe in either..so how would you even come to know how they are being disrespected?

I do understand where you are coming from in some way on your thought patterns.. but it is something you are not understanding with your spirit.

I pray that Jesus shows you what you need to know..and gives you understanding .








Because if i was god , and you partnered me with jesus and worshiped him more and idolized him , i would be very pissed.

God is the creator of the universe

Jesus = man.

God is responsible for jesus , the universe , and you

Jesus is nothing without god .

God is everything without jesus.

To wear crosses , and say jesus died for sins and salavation is through him

is a spit in the face of god .

If i was god i would be very pissed off , i do all this work and a human gets most of the glory by misinformed christians.

God is so divine has all the powers in the universe ? and only way for salavaiton is using al quida suidie tricks?

are you effin kidding me?

What weak god this is , there are a million things he could've done instead of sending his "son" on a suicide mission for sins.

Give me a break and enough with the human sacrafices please do you see where santanic comes from now?

clear enough?
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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Just because its real in your head does not make it reality .


Tell that to all the people who have received miracles through him.

www.padrepiodevotions.org...

read that whole page..and that is only one small portion..and tell me again he was a fraud.

The pharisees tried to pull that on Jesus as well..when he was healing the blind and the lame.. even went so far as to say it was demons working through them.

yes..satan is alive and well.. and trying his best to discredit those that work for Jesus...but here is no doubt that there are many false ones out there.. and I know that many churches have false healings ..but they are not of the true Holy Spirit.. Padre Pio was..

I will ask him to lead you to the grace of Jesus.. and to understand the passion of the crucifixion.



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