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Jesus Christ is the son of the one and only God, our creator.

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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
reply to post by sueloujo
 


If you seriously think that bones can survive that long with turning to dust then you need to understand that you cannot trust science.


You are a lost cause my friend..one word to you ...fossilization. off (oh that's two sorry).




posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
reply to post by sueloujo
 


If you seriously think that bones can survive that long with turning to dust then you need to understand that you cannot trust science.


But they're not bones. They're more like rock because silica has seeped in over time and replaced the cells. it's called fossilisation. That's science.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:25 PM
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Be greatful that God did not create you a "dumb animal". Be greatful that he made you a king over them.


(Trying to ignore the spelling error above....)
I would actually say that the "animals" with whom I have lived throughout my entire life are FAR more tolerant, accepting, genuine, nonjudgmental, unconditionally loving, and GRATEFUL (sorry, blame my late mortal father for insisting on proper spellng)....than MOST of the people I have met.

I'm not their "king", I'm their caregiver and friend and cohabiter.

I'm the being on whom they depend to provide shelter, affection, nutrition, and appropriate stimulation as their companion.

And on whom I depend for affection, protection, and companionship.

And those are the things on which any KING I was a subject of would need to provide. Else, I'm gone. Runaway.

So, since in order to stay on topic one must ask questions, I submit:

On what authority do you believe your OP statement?

(And "because the Bible says so" is not a legitimate answer. If you answer that, you fail the quiz. I want to know why you have decided it is true.)

Thanks in advance for indulging me. I'm still learning how those who share your belief justify their faith.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:27 PM
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reply to post by yourboycal2
 


You are thinking small scale, God cannot think this small to consider his ways mistakes. That's what you don't understand. Everything he does is necessary.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:34 PM
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reply to post by wildtimes
 


Animals do not depend on us.

they were created for their own purpose.

I am someone who battles direct evil.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
reply to post by yourboycal2
 


You are thinking small scale, God cannot think this small to consider his ways mistakes. That's what you don't understand. Everything he does is necessary.



lol? How do you sleep at night with such a mentality ?

How can i get to god with such a flawed book? Why would god want to be reached thru such a flawed book?

Why does god not answer prayers in bible like he says so ?

"(1 Corinthians 14:33 NIV) For God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the congregations of the saints,"

I could poitn to a few verses that would contradict this ?


Exodus 35:2

Deut 21:18-21

Lev 20:13:

"In Matthew 7:7 Jesus says:

Ask, and it will be given you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. For every one who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. Or what man of you, if his son asks him for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a serpent? If you then, who are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask him! "


In Matthew 17:20 Jesus says:

For truly, I say to you, if you have faith as a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there,' and it will move; and nothing will be impossible to you.



Now i would like you to ask jesus , or god . To cure someone ?

No? to much work?

Okay how about lighting the sky black for a whole day?

No? To much work?

Okay ask him to fix poverty in somolia just for 1 day ?

No to much work?

Okay ask him to come visit you tonight , and have him give you my address and name. If you can post tommorw my address and name . I will convert?


That is a very simple task? Can you do it champ?

I'll await your post tommorw! Good luck!

I can't wait to become a christian after this comes true!



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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I am able to sleep at night by trusting God to protect me from all evil.

I understand that by increasing my faith evil comes my way more directly.

I understand that by losing my faith I am more vulnerable to death, without savior.

By increasing my faith I can also gain Gods favor and I will indeed receive antyhing I ask for.
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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:49 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
reply to post by yourboycal2
 


I am able to sleep at night by trusting God to protect me from all evil.

I understand that by increasing my faith evil comes my way more directly.

I understand that by losing my faith I am more vulnerable to death, without savior.

By increasing my faith I can also gain Gods favor and I will indeed receive antyhing I ask for.
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You ever ask your self what if your wrong ?


God turns out to be something you were totally not expecting?


Would you feel guilty at all for all the people you might have mislead in your life with false information and beliefs?

Or would you brush it off and not really care?



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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If I was wrong I would be losing nothing.
Because I am following a belief that is about rightfulness.

If I chose to not belief I am in danger from going to hell.

I have already disobeyed God after accepting Jesus and it was not a fun ride. Now I am in a different battle for my existence.
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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
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If I chose to not belief I am in danger from going to hell.

So you only believe this out of fear?

Sounds like your god is a terrorist.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Prayer to invoke the Holy Spirit (Received 10 May 2011 16.00 hours)

My Mercy, as I have said, knows no bounds. Filled now with the Spirit of light and holiness you, all My followers everywhere, must be brave now and proclaim My word to all you come into contact with. Dismiss the scorn you may experience for it is too important now to ignore My pleas for conversion.

Hear My prayer now to give you the encouragement you need

“Fill me now Oh Lord with the gift of the Holy Spirit to carry your most Holy Word to sinners who I must help save in your name. Help me to cover them, through my prayers, with your precious blood so that they can be drawn to your Sacred Heart. Give me the gift of the Holy Spirit so that these poor souls can revel in your New Paradise.”


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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
reply to post by yourboycal2
 


If I was wrong I would be losing nothing.
Because I am following a belief that is about rightfulness.

If I chose to not belief I am in danger from going to hell.

I have already disobeyed God after accepting Jesus and it was not a fun ride. Now I am in a different battle for my existence.
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Well you would lose alot of wasted time and trust ?


What if you chose to belief " and you were wrong? and there was no hell? you were just worm food?

I asked about all the people you mislead ? clearly you could careless .. typical christian . selfish , dillusional , and lost in his own ego and superficial self rightousness.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 07:58 PM
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No you are wrong.



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:00 PM
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Thank you for answering the question

Thats all i need to know .

I can come out with 10 differnt interpertations of something bad and make it look peachy . Then easily claim you don't understand it.


You're quite welcome...

But see the issue is you actually arn't understanding the context of the passage...

Its like myself telling a story of a man murdering another.... then one that hears that story, goes to the police and tells them that "i actually murdered that person"

Its a simple misunderstanding thats all...


Problem is nobody understands the bible because its all over the place , with so many Versions , Interpertations , Parables , EDITS, and blatant omissions of books.


Incorrect.... many people understand the bible. Its just rare that those people come from any religious organization...

Yes there are many versions, alterations, deletions...etc etc. Though Gods message is still within the book... If you know where to look.


When you have all of that , then asked to take bible seriously its a spit in the face to any critical thinking abilities we have.


I didn't ask you to take the bible seriously...

I actually said Jesus did not order his servants to kill anyone... I do not take the entire bible as the word of God... quite the opposite actually


A book that has more holes in it then swiss cheese , and taken literal is very dangerous and as we can see from the posts in this thread how dillusional it is also


I didn't say "take the entire bible litterally" either... Its very flawed...

The words of Jesus are not flawed...




posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:04 PM
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I asked about all the people you mislead ? clearly you could careless .. typical christian . selfish , dillusional , and lost in his own ego and superficial self rightousness.


Christians do not have self righteousness...their righteousness comes through the mercy obtained through Christ...though they may struggle with human self righteousness at times.

what about the people you mislead.. How will you answer for that someday ? When you are shown clearly the great mercy of Christ..how will you feel about leading souls away from that truth?

You will be grateful for the prayers of the faithful.. on your behalf.




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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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"Yes there are many versions, alterations, deletions...etc etc. Though Gods message is still within the book... If you know where to look"


I can cherry pick which parts i feel are legit , and which are altered does not make it divine nor inspired by god. It makes me a fool to take it seriously.


"I actually said Jesus did not order his servants to kill anyone... I do not take the entire bible as the word of God... quite the opposite actually "

Whom was athe nobleman in the parable?

Quite opposite? really ?


but you contradict your self here

"I didn't say "take the entire bible litterally" either... Its very flawed...

The words of Jesus are not flawed.."


Let me make this in clear cut english for you ....


HOW DO I KNOW WHICH ARE JESUS WORDS ? WHICH ARE NOT?


WHen you just finished telling me the opposite?


Backwards logic might work in your head but the buck stops here



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:05 PM
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Yes the bible has been edited and whatnot, but not by unbelievers, but by people who through faith gained the holy spirit. Therefore it is editing that is necessary.
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They would not edit it for wrong.
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posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by gabby2011
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I asked about all the people you mislead ? clearly you could careless .. typical christian . selfish , dillusional , and lost in his own ego and superficial self rightousness.


Christians do not have self righteousness...their righteousness comes through the mercy obtained through Christ...though they may struggle with human self righteousness at times.

what about the people you mislead.. How will you answer for that someday ? When you are shown clearly the great mercy of Christ..how will you feel about leading souls away from that truth?

You will be grateful for the prayers of the faithful.. on your behalf.




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The people i mislead by showing clear cut contradictions errors and edits in the bible?

And saying no way a divine source was behind the bible?

If god finds me guilty for pointing out his mistakes.

I will gladly take hell , and the sins of all those i mislead . No problem at all.

I wouldn't worship a god full of mistakes , murder , jealousy , contradictions , and prayers that don't work?

How am i the one misleading? When im trying to show this cannnot be Gods inspiration?


"In Matthew 21:21:

I tell you the truth, if you have faith and do not doubt, not only can you do what was done to the fig tree, but also you can say to this mountain, 'Go, throw yourself into the sea,' and it will be done. If you believe, you will receive whatever you ask for in prayer."


Is this a lie ? Or the truth ? Or something i can just brush of with sugar coating? as he didn't really mean it ?



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
Yes the bible has been edited and whatnot, but not by unbelievers, but by people who through faith gained the holy spirit. Therefore it is editing that is necessary.
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They would not edit it for wrong.
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What kinda of broken logic is this ?

They would not edit it for wrong ? Are you kidding me ?

Why would god not protect his inspiration from the hands of evil men who love to edit and change things for political agends and control?


Whats stopping me from writing a bible ? and saying its gods creation

but don't worry . I WON"T EDIT IT WRONG LMFO


Listen to your self. How can you teach this nonsence too children ? You are an adult with critical thinking abilities , and rational person .

But you bend over everything you know in life , because of blind faith .

Regardless of the 1000's of misakes contradictions lies , murder rape i show you in the bible.

You will continue to believe in it .

Again another fine example of a satanic cult sugar coated as "christians"



posted on Jan, 2 2012 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
reply to post by VariableConstant
 


No you are wrong.

Well, that's possible. Certainly wouldn't be the first time.

But that's a fairly broad statement. Are you saying that I am wrong that you believe as you do out of fear? I based that statement on your own words. Even quoted them for clarity.

Or are you saying that using fear to influence the actions of others is not terrorism? I think that is the classic definition of the term.



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