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They probably learned that from Christians who actually are worse sometimes, as in NOTurTypical, who I think is the worse where he takes halves or thirds of verses and link then together to look like one long sentence and they are only segments taken completely out of context and I have seen places where he has done this where a sentence is compiled by about as many separate verses as there are words in the sentence.
Cool, so you can pull random sh*t out of the bible for your own purposes, whoopie. Atypical atheist trick to take an entire chapter and print 1 verse and ignore the entire chapter and book which defines the context for that verse
The only time you see me fierce is when I am standing up for animals or children. I can be more mouthy online but not by much compared to everybody else. As you can see I can write long posts but it makes me self conscious and awkward to do so. I post in bursts on ATS, usually retreating for days or weeks at a time because I find the effort at communicating and making myself properly understood so draining.
I'm a believer and a female raising a daughter of my own to also be a believer. But I do have to cherry pick through the Bible as I teach her about God. Someday she will be reading the whole thing by herself and I don't want her to go through the experience I had, a young girl reading about endless slaughter and burning of innocent animals so God can smell them and all the rapes and incest and all the other horrible things being done by people whom God blesses and elevates anyway just because they are Jewish and all the unlucky other people are dehumanized because they happen to be born to a tribe of pagans. Then taking my questions to my pastors to please explain the meaning of it all and how it fits in with the God who in the new Testament wants us to love one another as we love ourselves ... Only to be told basically I'm ignorant and don't understand. No kidding! duh. That's why I was asking those who spent all those years getting degrees to explain it to an ignorant teenager. Now here I am 45 years old and I'm still asking and getting the same answers that I am willfully ignorant amd misunderstanding.
I'd say that you are asking questions of the wrong people. I admire your efforts to guide your daughter to a more healthy and positive interpretation. I believe, for what it's worth, that the Bible is just that....to be cherry-picked. I encourage you to ask questions to people who are outside the "faith"...they will invariably, when met with challenging questions, resort to blaming you for not understanding, even for being wilfull in doing so. When someone says that, it shuts down all communication, which is their intent. They are unable to answer the questions, OR they are unwilling because they see they are losing their "grip" on you.
If anyone EVER demeans you like that, RUN! and KEEP RUNNING!! That is a MAJOR red flag indicating a striving not for education, but for CONTROL, and that they are NERVOUS. You have challenged their Authoriteye! And it makes them squirm.
Originally posted by gabby2011
Going to unbelievers about questions in the bible..could be like going to a blind man to ask for a description of the sunset.
TO THE OP ..I believe you may have been given some responses that may seem like they come from love and caring.. but if you look closely you will see the lessons that teaches people to not have faith in Jesus..and to expect the worst from believers.
Originally posted by TheTruthCqer
Until you accept him as your savior you will not awaken to the reality of the spiritual warfare which has been going on since the times of Adam and Eve.
any questions?edit on 2-1-2012 by TheTruthCqer because: (no reason given)
I was responding to SheeplFlavoredAgain. ANYONE who demeans a questioner who asks in good faith is NOT a teacher. They are a manipulating controller.
EDIT TO ADD: I was NOT talking about Catholic priests or Christian preachers in general, I was talking about ANY faith leader that demeans the questioner.
I encourage you to ask questions to people who are outside the "faith"...because those of the "faith" who, when met with challenging questions, resort to blaming you for not understanding, even for being wilfull in doing so, are doing wrong by you. When someone says that, it shuts down all communication, which is their intent.
Originally posted by vogon42
reply to post by wildtimes
I'll bet you a six pack she does NOT respond to my post with an answer that makes sense!
U2U me if you want to take the bet!
OR....just to stay on topic....
3 six packs, if you believe in the trinityedit on 6-1-2012 by vogon42 because: (no reason given)
which is why you are encouraging her to go outside the faith to have her questions answered.
Originally posted by gabby2011
I've decided not to waste anymore time with you.. you do not care sincerely about answers..and only use questions to bait and stroke your own ego..
Originally posted by gabby2011
so according to the above you were meaning christian leaders that would make her feel guilty and demean her.. which is why you are encouraging her to go outside the faith to have her questions answered.
edit on 6-1-2012 by gabby2011 because: (no reason given)
Also, the bible is against reincarnation
CORRECT. To go OUTSIDE of whatever Christian or Bible-based "faith" denomination she is in that has leaders who demean her. I don't care what subscription to the Bible ANY of them have, as long as they are respectful, kind, and accepting of questions.
Is that clear? Any other questions?
Ya know what......I.m not 9 years old now. If I ask a question, HOW DARE YOU slap my wrist and call me bad child.
To you and jdewey BOTH.......sod off! I'm done trying to make sense of this religion of yours. I can honestly say I gave it another chance......but it failed.