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What the Mayan Elders are Saying About 2012

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:32 PM
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science, yes they have been noticing children coming to this world with more DNA activated, you can find the article probably by doing a search on the internet

Could you post the link? I believe you have misinterpreted something you read.




posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
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Lemuria was not an ancient civilization it was an idea that a land bridge existed to explain fossil distributions. The idea of Lemuria was dropped after plate tectonics was realized. A nonexistent land bridge is no evidence for nukes. Nor is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. These cities only exist in the bible. The cities have never been located since they exist only in the bible. No evidence for nukes. If you want to show evidence for nukes please show us the blast zone.

You might want to start reading better books instead of nutty claims of a charlatan. Mayan astronomy is Mayan and not the result of a nonexistent Lemuria or Atlantis which has no evidence of its existence other than comments by Plato.


Well then you would need to explain how the writings of dozens upon dozens of indigenous tribes corroborate Plato AND Edgar Cayce. The evidence is overwhelming, but only if you're literate.

I doubt very much that you have read this book. Frank Joseph is certainly not a charlatan.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by SimontheMagus
 


Lemuria was not an ancient civilization it was an idea that a land bridge existed to explain fossil distributions. The idea of Lemuria was dropped after plate tectonics was realized. A nonexistent land bridge is no evidence for nukes. Nor is the story of Sodom and Gomorrah. These cities only exist in the bible. The cities have never been located since they exist only in the bible. No evidence for nukes. If you want to show evidence for nukes please show us the blast zone.

You might want to start reading better books instead of nutty claims of a charlatan. Mayan astronomy is Mayan and not the result of a nonexistent Lemuria or Atlantis which has no evidence of its existence other than comments by Plato.



lol

wow you are a skeptical one


you can find evidence of past nukes around...also they found a depot of active uranium or something like that in africa buried in an underground ancient site...

how about the mahabharata

en.wikipedia.org...


ancient cultures all around the world tell of cosmic stuff, True Human/Earth history has not been told to us....we have not remembered yet either...

but it's coming out and if you had the desire you would be spending some free time on finding out


you can find truth out there, use your intuition




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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Nuclear Sodom and Gomorrah:

www.halexandria.org...

Plate Tectonics: Pangea proven FALSE

www.continuitystudios.net...



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by cornucopia
 



science, yes they have been noticing children coming to this world with more DNA activated, you can find the article probably by doing a search on the internet

Could you post the link? I believe you have misinterpreted something you read.



there is lots of stuff about DNA out there...


Scientists Prove DNA Can Be Reprogrammed by Words and Frequencies
wakeup-world.com...

Collaborative research from a gathering of exo-scientists postulate that there are genes from over 20 extraterrestrials civilizations in Human DNA
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...


Recoding To 12 Strand DNA Sequence And Entering Into The Photon Belt
www.in5d.com...


New Form Of Humans Being
Made? DNA, Cellular Upgrades?
www.rense.com...



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:05 PM
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The issue is the misrepresentation of the data. The site you linked to does nothing more than make absurd misrepresentations.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:49 PM
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Well then you would need to explain how the writings of dozens upon dozens of indigenous tribes corroborate Plato AND Edgar Cayce. The evidence is overwhelming, but only if you're literate.

Your so hilarious. There is only 1 source for Atlantis and it is a discussion in a story written by Plato. Cayce has nothing to offer about Atlantis. He made up fairy tales.


Frank Joseph is certainly not a charlatan.

If he claims Lemuria was more than a proposal to explain the distribution of fossils then he certainly is.
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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Boy are you a gullible one. You also seem to be confused between skeptic and scoffer. I am not a scoffer.

There is no evidence for ancient nukes. Again, where are the blast marks? Where are the bomb manufacturing sites? Where is any of the infrastructure from mines to manufacturing to waste sites to labs or anything else showing the manufacture of anything that complex?

There was no ancient cache of uranium found in Africa. There is nothing out there but failed misrepresentations of ancient texts. Use your intuition and realize how ridiculous your claim is. There is zero evidence. Delusions yes, evidence no.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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The first link provides no evidence just speculation and not good speculation at that.

The second link is to a video. Want to explain why you think it is worthwhile. I certainly do not watch unexplained videos.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:01 PM
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You state "Scientists Prove DNA Can Be Reprogrammed by Words and Frequencies " yet you link to a hoax site. No surprise there. Consider the first person mentioned Pjotr Garjajev. He's a fraud.
lizditz.typepad.com...

Good work at being gullible.

Then you go off to the stupidity of 12 strand DNA and photon belts. You have fallen for some of the most ridiculous claims made by charlatans.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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Have you actually looked into the past of Frank Joseph, aka Frank Collin? Collin used to be the leader of the National Socialist Party of America. In 1977 he planned a march through Skokie, Illinois, which at the time had the highest Jewish population per capita in the US with many being Holocaust survivors. A rather famous court case revolves around this march and in the end the NSPA was allowed to march in Nazi uniforms, but could not wear their armbands. This case was made moot when the Jewish leaders of Skokie persuaded the city of Chicago to let Collin hold a rally at Marquette Park instead of marching. It was then revealed that Collin was actually of Jewish ancestry and may have in fact been conceived in Dachau. This was followed shortly by him being caught having sex with two ten year old boys.

Since getting released from prison he has become the New Age author Frank Joseph, who describes himself as a neo-pagan. However, one can merely look at the subject of his writing and see that he really hasn't left his Nazi roots behind. Civilizations such as Lemuria and Atlantis played a major role in the theosophy of H.P. Blavatsky. Blavatsky's writings in turn were a major influence on many of the leaders of the Nazis. One could even argue that the concept of an Aryan master race comes from Blavatsky's books.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:16 PM
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What he's referring to is the natural nuclear reactor found at Oklo in Gabon. The conditions under which uranium could naturally maintain a self-sustaining nuclear reaction was hypothesized back in 1956 and then the discovery at Oklo was made in 1972 with almost the exact same conditions. Of course, it was almost 2 billion years ago when this fission reaction started and it lasted a few hundred thousand years. So I fail to see how he is trying to connect this natural phenomenon to the Maya.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by cornucopia
 


Boy are you a gullible one. You also seem to be confused between skeptic and scoffer. I am not a scoffer.

There is no evidence for ancient nukes. Again, where are the blast marks? Where are the bomb manufacturing sites? Where is any of the infrastructure from mines to manufacturing to waste sites to labs or anything else showing the manufacture of anything that complex?

There was no ancient cache of uranium found in Africa. There is nothing out there but failed misrepresentations of ancient texts. Use your intuition and realize how ridiculous your claim is. There is zero evidence. Delusions yes, evidence no.



lol

whatever,

you see what you want to see i guess..

i'm done, i'm just gonna go live life..

lol

f it



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:36 PM
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I had supposed that was what was being misrepresented. The way of faker is to begin with a small amount of truth and then go off the deep end with all sorts of misrepresentations, outrageous speculations, and outright dastardly lies.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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Your reluctance to back up this outlandish fairy tale certainly shows that you know it is a complete fabrication with no supporting evidence.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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I had an idea that these were the same people: the Nazi thug, the pedophile, and the alternate history author. I did not want to suggest that without researching it better.

Thanks for the good work.



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by cornucopia
 


Boy are you a gullible one. You also seem to be confused between skeptic and scoffer. I am not a scoffer.

There is no evidence for ancient nukes. Again, where are the blast marks? Where are the bomb manufacturing sites? Where is any of the infrastructure from mines to manufacturing to waste sites to labs or anything else showing the manufacture of anything that complex?

There was no ancient cache of uranium found in Africa. There is nothing out there but failed misrepresentations of ancient texts. Use your intuition and realize how ridiculous your claim is. There is zero evidence. Delusions yes, evidence no.


Africa Nuclear Reactor:

The natural Uranium reactor is found in Gabon, Africa at a place called Oklo. Specific conditions allowed for enough concentrations of Uranium oxide to collect and start a reaction (critical mass). This natural reactor continued to burn for millions of years.

Blast Marks?

Lbyan Desert Glass: Glass made of silica found in the Libyan estimated to have formed over 29 million years ago. Ancient nuclear war proponents say the glass could not have been fused from the local exposed sandstone simply because both the sand and the dunes are not older than one million years.

The Bombay (Mumbai) crater: Circular 2,154-metre-diameter Lonar crater, located 400 kilometres northeast of Bombay and aged at less than 50,000 years old. No meteoric material has ever been found around or in the crater.

Rajasthan, India: Excavations of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro unearthed irradiated skeletons thousands of years old. Other dig sites produced evidence of intense heat, hot enough to fuse solid rock together.

North America: "Our research indicates that the entire Great Lakes region (and beyond) was subjected to particle bombardment and a catastrophic nuclear irradiation that produced secondary thermal neutrons from cosmic ray interactions.

The neutrons produced unusually large quantities of 239 Pu and substantially altered the natural uranium abundance ratios (235 U/238 U) in artifacts and in other exposed materials including cherts, sediments, and the entire landscape.

These neutrons necessarily transmuted residual nitrogen (14 N) in the dated charcoals to radiocarbon, thus explaining anomalous dates."

~ Richard B. Firestone:
Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory
Nuclear Science Division
Isotopes Project

"Cosmic Ray interactions"
Maybe....

An interesting side note here:

from the Ancient verses of the Mahabharata:

"An incandescent column of smoke and flame as bright as the thousand suns rose in all its splendor... a perpendicular explosion with its billowing smoke clouds...the cloud of smoke rising after its first explosion formed into expanding round circles like the opening of giant parasols... it was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.



"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds." ~ J Robert Oppenheimer quoting the Bhagavad Gita

There's plenty more anecdotal evidence... but I'm not tryin to convince you but I did want to point out that there is plenty of anomalous evidence to suggest that an ancient nuclear war cannot be completely ruled out.

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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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Have you actually looked into the past of Frank Joseph, aka Frank Collin?


Thanks for this info, I really appreciate it. It requires one to rethink everything from the ground up.

As for Blavatsky and Theosophy, it was infiltrated by Annie Besant and the message was then corrupted and eventually misused by the Nazis. I have read her works extensively and she never promoted the idea of a master race. If you know of direct quotes I would appreciate any information you may have so I can investigate.

Thanks again.
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posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 04:27 PM
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Thanks for confirming that the uranium claim is due to a natural feature and not ancient nukes. BTW, Oklo was active for hundreds of thousands of years, not millions.

The Libyan glass you refer to is likely a reference to tektites that are found there.
The minerals in and about Lonar make it clear that it is an impact feature.
I was wondering when people would get around to the hoax of Harappa and Mohenjo-Daro. There is no excess radiation there. The so-called translations are modern fiction from the last century.

Look here for a discussion of the ridiculous claims put forth.
www.unexplained-mysteries.com...



posted on Jan, 4 2012 @ 04:34 PM
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Mayan calendar or not, we are entering in to a new age whether or not we agree to recognize it. Man now has the power to kill every other person on the planet and unfortunately we have allowed some very bad and very fearful people to take over our governments. They are forcing us to either accept their dictates to live in a technocratic feudal society or to remove them from their seats of power and learn to get along without them and the military structures that hold humankind at gunpoint.

Many are hoping some new technology will save us but that is not where the real power to create change is - it is within us all. The message is correct, the old materialism must fade away to make room for a new spiritual reality that we co-create.

Either love will conquer all or we go down the path of ruin.
There is no middle path.
2012 is a crucial year for mankind irrespective of any calendar.



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