posted on Jan, 7 2012 @ 07:25 PM
Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
To enforce the Constitution is not within the president's authority?
The Constitution says nothing about abortion. It left civil/criminal laws to the States.
I do not advocate for abortion at any time, ever, at all. I belong to no "collective".
A semantic argument. This is tiring. You and everyone else who argue for a woman's right to an abortion, who participate in maintaining its legal
status, and who perform/have abortions are all part of a process which includes inducing cardiac arrest. If that isn't a problem for you, so be it.
So, I should encourage them to further violate my rights with their legislation? Because "they're already doing it"? I shouldn't mind further
intrusion... because it's already happening? Is that really your position?
Wow. Given what you know of my stance, would this really
be my position or are you just being sardonic?
The very system that you would ask to preserve your right to an abortion is the very system assaulting your rights on EVERY other front.
The platform by which they are stripping your rights away is the very platform that renders their illegal actions possible - cherry picking and
narrowing in on specific issues and legislative actions within
that platform while simultaneously leaving the platform itself untouched does
Talk about encouragement. By saying to the Gov't - "I realize you have stripped me of various critical birthrights guaranteed by virtue of my
citizenship. Nevertheless, I am STILL going to rely on you to enforce the very few remaining rights I have" --- is, by definition, encouraging them.
You are acknowledging them as an authority figure when by all accounts their abuses of power have effectively stripped them of authority.
Because they do not obey the Constitution, nor the will of the people, they have LOST their authority - but you GIVE them authority when you ask
them to EXERCISE authority.
Appealing to a system that pillages your rights to preserve your rights is a logically defunct DEAD END.
It makes no sense. You can't have it both ways.
You're right, There's no guarantee that abortion will always be federally legal. But it has been since 1973 and the way it is now is a LOT
better than it would be if each state had its way. It's very unlikely that the feds will make abortion illegal. Conservatives in Congress (like Ron
Paul) have tried and tried and tried. And it just won't pass a bipartisan Congress. States would be MUCH more successful and Paul knows that.
Yeah that's what I thought about Habeas Corpus.
A central maxim decreed by the Constitution which has been around a lot longer than abortion.
But yeah, a bipartisan Congress didn't seem tantamount in stopping that from passing.
edit on 7-1-2012 by followtheevidence because: (no