This is an excellent thread, some criticisms I have of the original post(s) are covered well by others.

One thing I may add is that approaching the question of "kingship" or LUGAL from a Christian perspective is a fundamentally flawed thing to do.

Muzzleflash, my congratulations on an astonishing thread. I sat and read it through last night, and after settling down in my mind there’s just so many things that connect and prove themselves to be Truth. There’s so much I want to add, yet our friends have added to this thread in a truly inspirational way, it’s almost like everything has been said … your “thesis” really does stand. A few things I hope will add to this thread, my opinion only, but strange how some here are coming to exactly the same conclusions?

Firstly, the title. ProtoplasmicTraveler should be honoured that we remember his work with great respect, walking the Rome road leads one out of the 21st madness, and back to the core of our “civilisation”. Well, to the outer appearances of our civilisation, particularly the control grid. But Rome has a secret, and hiding behind the outer appearances lies the secret of sun worship. The REASONS for obelisks, dagon hats and much else besides. This thread looks behind those appearances, and digs deeper into our history, and shows the “occult” history of the world, which dovetails with the “traditional” history at one major junction, that of Nimrod. These 2 threads, Rome and Babylon, while both being astounding in their own right, have to be understood together, to make sense of the lies we are taught from young, both political and spiritual.

Secondly, the lies. The biggest problem I’ve had with my personal research is the VAST number of lies one has to wade through. Manufactured truths which are designed to suggest anything but the Truth. An excellent example would be the “eminence” of certain people who are spiritually “above” us, to whom we should report to, and obey. Here are the lies which keep repeating themselves thematically throughout history:

1. You shall be like God
2. You won’t die
3. God is fiction
4. Satan (and any “followers”) is fiction

It’s curious that where Babylonian and Semitic texts converge, at the time of the tower, which is after the flood, God was accepted as a fact of life, and Nimrod opposed that God. So the original lie “you will be like God” morphed over time to there is no God. Likewise for the fact that it was “satan, that old devil” who made the original lie, yet later is deemed to not exist. The Babylonian myths state that Nimrod got the tower right, and INTENTIONALLY introduced the babble, only to be unfairly punished after. The Semitic texts say that he failed, and that the punishment was the babble.

Thirdly, the validity of the bible. I was raised Christian, although having gone my own path since. I have a great many reasons for rejecting the texts, but when I get here, I find I cannot. The events as portrayed in the bible around the time of the flood and the tower are clearly the same as the Babylonian texts, but obviously differing in that they “supported” God, whereas the “Babylonians” were opposed. That opposition remains to this day. The 2 truths, the biblical truth and “everyone else”, all trace back to Nimrod and the babble. And the OPPOSITION of MAN to GOD.

Fourth, the relevance. We know the threat against us from those who wish ultimate control over earth, NOW, one world government etc, all aim at bringing the world’s people back under a single figure, doing what he orders. It is exactly what the babble ended. The Mystery Babylon has been about re-creating that time. That is what we’re being dragged towards, uniting the world, and turning the world against God. Now if you accept that we are under a constant pressure, one which corrupts youth, ruins men and families, abuses women, ruins our environment, and is intent on disempowering us in every way. All this takes us away from the most simple facts that we can establish: we are men, created by God, in Eden, and a certain “being” has sabotaged the plan. The bible speaks of demons, and evil spirits. While we know that modern society scorns these ideas, but there is ample evidence that the occult rulers use occultic methods to obtain occultic powers from occult beings … who strongly resemble the bible’s descriptions of “demons”. So a greater part of the Mystery Babylon is it’s connection to a separate realm, which is a source of personal power for certain people. Mystery Babylon is the continuation of man’s rage against God, which has clearly reached a crucial point in history.

Fifth, the revealing. In the end days “knowledge shall be increased”. We are truly unique in history being able to examine these things in context like this. The Truth will out, eventually. Forgive me please if I am wrong, but I’m shaken by 2 basic parts of this thread: the insight which is brought to the open for the first time, simultaneously by several posters, and the accuracy of the biblical accounts and consequently many other things, which until now haven’t really made sense. The comment about the feast of trumpets shook me, the timing, the 1335 days (I think) and how we are now in that unique place. I couldn’t but help feel that yes, it’s started, the end times are here, and a key has been turned, unlocking something we never expected, but revealing itself in the minds of men … Truth, loud and clear. This is the state of it, this is the choice. No more confusion, no more uncertainty.

I should stop now, going to re-read the thread to come back to a few questions I had, a few other links I want to examine. Muzzleflash thank you again. I can only recommend you look just that little bit deeper, to the Adam to flood time. The Cain story is important, as is the Cainite vs Sethite story. Genetics comes into play here, and it has to be stressed that all humans came from Noah and his wife. Noah was a pureblood Sethite, whereas his wife wasn’t, and how the wife led to the cursing of Ham and Canaan. Off topic to this thread perhaps, but it helped me understand the context of this thread a lot better.

Great thread! A couple of things I would add is the fact that artifacts such as the crystal skulls (some say are around 100,000 years old) and a piece of machined aluminum said to be maybe 200,000 years old found in the area of Romania show that we actually know very little about the ancients. But one things rings true is the fact that religion = power and those who hold the power will sometimes do anything to ensure that they keep that power including twisting of facts and the creation of myths goes on. The more time goes on the more archeologists are able to either verify or dismiss tales from the past. I suspect however most of these stories will never be fully understood.

This will probably get lost in all the talk but

Abraham came from the Sumerian (latter Chaldean/Babylon) city of Ur. He travelled to the land of Canaan (modern day Israel) at Gods request.
One would suppose that the people of Ur, Abrahams hometown had a fairly good understanding of the one true God.
Abrahams father Terrah was the 10th descendent of Noah. Abraham was chosen by God to find a new land and start a new covenant. It would seem logical to accept Abraham had a solid relationship with God to have received this request, and that the teachings of God and pre Abrahamic history were well established, at the very least in Ur if not throughout Samaria

Genesis 24-25. Abraham refused to allow his son to marry a pagan from Cannanite stock. Abraham sent his servant back to Ur to find Isaac a wife. The people of Ur still recognised Abraham and his God. They sent Rebecca to Abraham accepting it was ordained by God. Gen 24 and 25

There is no conflict. God was recognised by humanity before Abraham and before the new covenant was established prior to Israel.
Sumerian history remembers and probably received prophecy from God about the future. It just got distorted over time.
Hence why Abraham had to leave his home town and people and start a new people.

Originally posted by Onboard2

Are you referring to the one true, jealous god that destroyed hundreds of people and liked burnt offerings? I really can't fathom it.

Fathom it or not, God is as you described. Thats exactly how the bible portrays him. Exactly how He wanted to be portrayed. God sent Jesus to redeem humanity from sin and pride, if they refuse Jesus then expect a Jealous Destroying God, described as Terrible
Nehemiah 1:5-11
King James Version (KJV)
5And said, I beseech thee, O LORD God of heaven, the great and terrible God, that keepeth covenant and mercy for them that love him and observe his commandments:

Hebrews 12:28-29
King James Version (KJV)
28Wherefore we receiving a kingdom which cannot be moved, let us have grace, whereby we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear:
29For our God is a consuming fire.

The God of Christianity is no little fat man you can make garden decorations of.
and
God hasnt destroyed hundreds of people, thats silly. I couldnt even imagine the number of people my God has destroyed

Even in todays corporate symbolism Sun worship is blatantly obvious....I don't buy into the whole "bloodlines of the illuminati" thing but I do believe this mystery religion of sun worship has been transmitted through some sort of priesthood down through the ages. Maybe at one time this religion was only centered in one place but now its spread its influence worldwide and to be a leader in this world one must first pay tribute to The Sun/Nimrod.

Great thread!