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reply to post by muzzleflash
I am really mixed on this issue, and as you can see I purposely avoided taking a particular 'religious slant' in order to keep this information open to everyone of all walks of life or beliefs.
After spending a week researching into this topic, I was blown away by what I was finding while seeking correlations to the Semiramis origin and what implications it has to our modern contemporary civilization and how it affects our lives today.
Originally posted by seraphnb
reply to post by undo
I understand your confusion. My post was somewhat vague at that point, as it was directly addressed to Mr Tripps.
As for the matter at hand:
I was not at all implying that ancient Babylon and Sumeria were make believe. Also, I did not see myself alluding to Revelations as true (although I believe that prophecy is prophecy, no matter who gives it). I do believe that the ancient Jewish books of the Torah can find their basis in historical fact. I do believe that Rabbi Yeshua Bar Yosef was an a-okay guy who gave some good moral teaching. However, I also believe that many parts of his life were blatantly fabricated by the Romans at the Council of Nicaea (and other early Ecumenical Councils). The apocrypha, dueterocanonical books and the Dead Sea Scrolls paint an entirely different picture of Jesus' life, and I tend to look at the full picture and all sides of the story before accepting anything in general.
reply to post by SuperTripps
Yes, I do agree with you that all Roads lead to Rome while all Mysteries/Cults/Religions point to Babylon. I am in part to blame with Mr Flash's naming of the thread, as I was present in the chat window where he was asking for name ideas. I believe that I mentioned "All Roads Lead to Babylon" as a possibility, in part due to the fact that I had just finished perusing that thread, without considering what it actually meant.
As for the bit about how the Hebrews tie into Babylon:
I subscribe to the section of thought called Panbabylonism that holds the Hebrew Bible~ especially and most importantly the Book of Genesis~ as a direct derivation from Babylonian myth. Also, the fact that the Garden of Eden is said to be located in Mesopotamia and that the first city is held as being founded by Hebrews at or around Eridu . . .
Well, this kind of has me convinced that there IS a very sound link between the Hebrews and the Babylonians.
I also find your pattern connecting the Anglo-Saxons and the Hebrews as extremely interesting. I do believe that the Anglo-Saxons are actually descended from the Lost Ten Tribes of Israelites. It was actually quite a fad back around the 1920s. British Israelism and all that. This page and the Migration section of this page are excellent links that I happened across quite a while ago. However, I offer my warnings: the author of these articles seems to be of the opinion that not only the Anglo-Saxons, but also the Goths, Norse and Greek peoples are descended from the Hebrew people, which is preposterous (to say the least).
Anyway, that about closes up my replies for tonight. I, as always, hope I did not offend anybody, and if I did, I certainly did not mean to.
Just my two cents,
edit on 7-1-2012 by seraphnb because: formatting
Revelation 17:3-5 . . . And I caught sight of a woman sitting upon a scarlet-colored wild beast that was full of blasphemous names and that had seven heads and ten horns. 4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet, and was adorned with gold and precious stone and pearls and had in her hand a golden cup that was full of disgusting things and the unclean things of her fornication. 5 And upon her forehead was written a name, a mystery: “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots and of the disgusting things of the earth.. . .
Originally posted by seraphnb
reply to post by SuperTripps
Ron Paul 2012!
Boy, that was quick,
Originally posted by Shieldmaker
It dosen't take a genius to realize that Revelations Chapter 18, is referring to the United States in some form.
That is, unless you disregard the prophecy of John. Which i don't.
Originally posted by korathin
Anyways about the OP, interesting read but sadly as others pointed out it doesn't fit. Good try though, keep at it, keep learning.
Leviticus 26:30-32 . .And I shall certainly annihilate YOUR sacred high places and cut off YOUR incense stands and lay YOUR own carcasses upon the carcasses of YOUR dungy idols; and my soul will simply abhor YOU. 31 And I shall indeed give YOUR cities to the sword and lay YOUR sanctuaries desolate, and I shall not smell YOUR restful odors.
Numbers 33:51-53 . .YOU are crossing the Jordan into the land of Ca′naan. 52 And YOU must drive away all the inhabitants of the land from before YOU and destroy all their stone figures, and all their images of molten metal YOU should destroy, and all their sacred high places YOU should annihilate"
Cush, (son of Ham, or grandson of Noah) was married to Semiramis. They became rulers of the original great city. Cush died but his wife Semiramis gave birth to their son, Nimrod. Semiramis then married Nimrod her son. Shem, son of Noah and founder of the Semite lineage, killed Nimrod and cut his body into (12?) pieces. Semiramis told her followers that in order to bring him back to life, she needed to recover these pieces and reconstruct his body. They found all pieces except for one, his genitals. Therefore Semiramis told the people that Nimrod had ascended to the Sun and became the "Sun God" named "Ba'al". She then became pregnant with a son, and claimed that the 'rays of the sun god' had impregnated her, and declared she was a virgin. This son's name was Tammuz.