The Shocking Lack of Evidence Supporting Flu Vaccines, page 2
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reply posted on 4-1-2012 @ 11:19 AM by soficrow
reply to post by newcovenant



I don't think they are manipulating the flu vaccine.
I think they are manipulating the flu virus itself from year to year.

I think they are doing their best to have the vaccine match whatever VIRUS they've created.


You really need to educate yourself - start with some basic biology and evolution. You will learn that viruses and microbes mutate in response to environmental change - as they adapt, they evolve.

If people don't start recognizing how evolution works we will remain at the mercy of Big Pharma, the military-industrial complex and our corporate leaders in the World Economic Forum.

Which is of course, exactly what "they" want.


reply posted on 4-1-2012 @ 09:07 PM by newcovenant
Originally posted by soficrow
reply to
post by newcovenant



I don't think they are manipulating the flu vaccine.
I think they are manipulating the flu virus itself from year to year.

I think they are doing their best to have the vaccine match whatever VIRUS they've created.


You really need to educate yourself - start with some basic biology and evolution. You will learn that viruses and microbes mutate in response to environmental change - as they adapt, they evolve.

If people don't start recognizing how evolution works we will remain at the mercy of Big Pharma, the military-industrial complex and our corporate leaders in the World Economic Forum.

Which is of course, exactly what "they" want.


You really need to educate yourself...
en.wikipedia.org...
Biological warfare (also known as germ warfare) is the use of biological toxins or infectious agents such as bacteria, viruses, and fungi with intent to kill or incapacitate humans, animals or plants as an act of war. Biological weapons (often termed "bio-weapons" or "bio-agents") are living organisms or replicating entities (viruses) that reproduce or replicate within their host victims. Entomological (insect) warfare is also considered a type of BW.



reply posted on 4-1-2012 @ 09:09 PM by newcovenant
Originally posted by OccamsRazor04
reply to
post by newcovenant



My question to you is this, is the strain the vaccine is effective against the same strain that wiped out those cities?

If not, then your fearmongering is meaningless as the vaccine will do nothing to prevent that.


What are you talking about fear mongering???


What makes people so rude around here?


I suggest you take your shots.
Almost every vaccination your pediatrician wants to give you and a flu shot if you are elderly.
Is that fear mongering?



reply posted on 4-1-2012 @ 09:18 PM by soficrow
reply to post by newcovenant


Originally posted by newcovenant
Originally posted by soficrow
reply to post by newcovenant



I don't think they are manipulating the flu vaccine.
I think they are manipulating the flu virus itself from year to year.

I think they are doing their best to have the vaccine match whatever VIRUS they've created.


You really need to educate yourself - start with some basic biology and evolution. You will learn that viruses and microbes mutate in response to environmental change - as they adapt, they evolve.

If people don't start recognizing how evolution works we will remain at the mercy of Big Pharma, the military-industrial complex and our corporate leaders in the World Economic Forum.

Which is of course, exactly what "they" want.


You really need to educate yourself...
en.wikipedia.org...
Biological warfare (also known as germ warfare) is the use of biological toxins or infectious agents such as bacteria, viruses, and fungi with intent to kill or incapacitate humans, animals or plants as an act of war. Biological weapons (often termed "bio-weapons" or "bio-agents") are living organisms or replicating entities (viruses) that reproduce or replicate within their host victims. Entomological (insect) warfare is also considered a type of BW.


I'm well aware that bioweapons exist. I also know bioweapons are much less of a danger than the very real pandemic threat from animal diseases jumping to humans. My concern is that you do not understand evolution, or recognize that our planet is in a period of accelerated evolution right now - virtually every lifeform including viruses and microbes are mutating and evolving at hyper-speed - and as a result, we're undergoing what many call the "6th Mass Extinction."

I also am greatly concerned that the "Dumbing Down Americans Campaign" was successful - most evident in the nation's lack of "pandemic awareness," and ignorance about viral and microbial evolution.

Seems most Americans are more worried about a terrorist attack than they are about a pandemic, or about disease jumping from animals to humans - scenarios that are far, far more likely. Over 75% of Americans believe scientists or the government can prevent the next global disease outbreak - and are completely ignorant of the fact that the window for pandemic prevention closed long ago.

ATS member Surfeit posted the link in this OP: National Survey on Pandemic Awareness and Attitudes.

NATIONAL SURVEY ON PANDEMIC AWARENESS AND ATTITUDES. Conducted October 28-31, 2011.

A plurality (40%) of adults believe that the most likely source of the next global disease outbreak is human to human. Less than one in five Americans (17%) know that animal to human is the most likely source.

More than three quarters of Americans (76%) believe that scientists or governments can do at least something to prevent the next global disease outbreak.



reply posted on 4-1-2012 @ 09:20 PM by newcovenant
reply to post by soficrow



What are you trying to say?

All I hear is

"I know it all."



Take the vaccinations or not?


reply posted on 4-1-2012 @ 09:37 PM by soficrow
reply to post by newcovenant


Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by soficrow



What are you trying to say?

All I hear is

"I know it all."




We're here to share information, aren't we?


Take the vaccinations or not?


Gawd NO!!! In my humble opinion.



PS. Do you realize that viruses constantly mutate and every new strain requires a specific vaccine specifically tailored to target that very specific strain? As in, any old vaccine just will not do - they're not re-useable.
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