Scarlett Johansson's Alleged Nude Pic Leaker Faces 121 Years

Originally posted by greeneyedleo


yes the criminal justice system needs a complete overhaul....as one who has majored in it....im pretty passionate about the changes needed

Agree 100%

Consider this...........

RIVERSIDE, Calif. (KABC) -- A professor at UC Riverside is calling California's three-strikes law a complete failure. Dr. Robert Parker claims the law is to blame for overcrowded state prisons and has cost the state billions of dollars. Under three-strikes, criminals convicted of three or more felonies receive a mandatory sentence of 25 years to life. One of the first strikes must be considered a violent or serious felony, but the third does not have to meet that criteria.

UC Riverside professor says three-strikes law is a failure

I know a guy serving 30 years,for swiping a pack of gum,under this law.

reply to post by Adyta
Some of the charges definitely seem trumped up, and the sentence is definitely excessive...finding email addresses via public records and then guessing passwords/secret questions and answers is "hacking" now?

While it's definitely wrong on his part and punishment is due, it is utterly ridiculous to have a sentence this extreme so far beyond what many violent crimes would earn, especially when our prison system is not good for much beyond turning fairly normal people into real criminals or making real criminals WORSE criminals (why we can't follow some more effective european models, I don't know?). I suppose we won't have to worry about that as he's likely to die in prison, though...unless they decide to show a little common sense and release him early somehow due to the overcrowding of the prison system he'll likely be sent to.

If this is true good.Perhaps it will deter any other would be hackers.He should be caned too.

reply to post by sonnny1
Rockefeller and three-strikes laws are simply a travesty of justice. The Riverside professor is absolutely correct and we all suffer as a result of prison overpopulation and the resulting releases of violent inmates as well as the human rights violations that go hand-in-hand.

reply to post by Praetorius


This "hacker" is being used as an example I suspect to dissuade others from following in his footsteps .. which I think is a horrible thing in and of itself.

I think fines are acceptable, and possibly a minimal prison term .. but 121 years is excessive, even if it is the result of stacking multiple charges..

People kill others and still get less than that.. no amount of nude picture leaking of celebrities can be worse than ending someone's life.

Look, this is the way...in terms of possible length of sentencing...these things always start out. For each charge there is a maximum possible sentence, and the reporter just adds them up...and it totals to a really big number.

Depending on the alleged perpetrator's previous criminal history, I doubt...at the end of it all...that he would serve more than a couple of years in jail.

I absolutely disagree with the people who are suggesting that the victim is somehow partially responsible for the crime because she privately took some photos and privately transmitted them. She had absolutely no intention of sharing them with anyone other than whomever they were transferred to - certainly not the public at large.

Her privacy was invaded, her property stolen, her reputation damaged...all because of a criminal who went way, way out of his way to conceive, plan and execute a complicated plan to hurt her.

What if he had broken into her house, and hidden in her closet....and then got a hold of her digital camera when she wasn't looking and then transferred the photos to his computer...and then spread them across the internet?

Is there really any difference between this and what he did?

Just because you have the skills required to break into somebodies digital records and steal the contents, doesn't give you license to do so...any more than possessing the skills to pick a lock, or jimmy a window makes it legal to break and enter.

For some reason, "hackers" have this somehow romantic reputation as being crusading freedom warriors...when in reality they are just meddlers and common thieves. I hope they throw the book at him.

Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by sonnny1

 

Rockefeller and three-strikes laws are a simple travesty of justice. The Berkley professor is absolutely correct and we all suffer as a result of prison overpopulation and the resulting releases of violent inmates as well as the human rights violations that go hand-in-hand.

not just that....but if the legal system choses to release these people w/out actually rehabilitating them and giving them education, job skills, people skills, counseling and so on........they are being released back into a world that will not give them jobs (esp ones that pay enough to survive in this world), not give them places to live and so on....they create a vicious cycle and create recividism with the current state of our BOP and sentencing, etc....

i could go on and on....maybe i will just start a thread on this issue....its a huge passion of mine

/rant

Guy posts pedophile porn and get 3 years
Guy posts pictures of woman in her late 20's gets 121 years
And who says money isn't power

reply to post by mobiusmale
We'll have to see what the actual sentencing is, but it is not at all uncommon for judges to order they serve the sentences for the various charges consecutively (as compared to concurrently, at the same time).

This is something I'm definitely of mixed opinions about and need to put a lot more though into - but it can just seem so downright WICKED, especially when considering other crimes and facts like Operation Paperclip (where we effectively pardoned and recruited Nazi scientists after WWII) and our government working with terrorist groups and doing other things to destabilize and overthrow elected foreign governments.

I wish Justice were still blind.

reply to post by greeneyedleo
You are absolutely correct, and I have to wonder if it's by design, GEL - otherwise I can't understand how it makes any blasted sense as it's so counterproductive - unless politicians, etc., merely have an easier time appealing to the ignorance and fury of the people on the matter. (well, OK, saying it out loud makes it sound obvious...).

If you get around to making that thread, please be sure to cover the european models that would infuriate so many americans (seeming like a pleasant summer camp retreat for the prisoners) that yield a much higher rate of reform and lower rates of repeat offenders, with better social reintegration.

Take care.

EDIT:
For reference - Norway's 'summer camp' prison emphasizes rehabilitation
Admittedly, I haven't put a whole lot of research into this, but I know our system seems to be terribly ineffective.

Originally posted by mobiusmale
Look, this is the way...in terms of possible length of sentencing...these things always start out. For each charge there is a maximum possible sentence, and the reporter just adds them up...and it totals to a really big number.

Depending on the alleged perpetrator's previous criminal history, I doubt...at the end of it all...that he would serve more than a couple of years in jail.

I absolutely disagree with the people who are suggesting that the victim is somehow partially responsible for the crime because she privately took some photos and privately transmitted them. She had absolutely no intention of sharing them with anyone other than whomever they were transferred to - certainly not the public at large.

Her privacy was invaded, her property stolen, her reputation damaged...all because of a criminal who went way, way out of his way to conceive, plan and execute a complicated plan to hurt her.

1. her reputation was not damaged. i belive she has been nude in a movie before (but im not positive...im not a fan of hers, never seen her movies)....and well it only has driven more attention to her....for a celeb, this is good.

2. nobody here is saying that she was responsible for the crime.

i said people are idiots for taking nude photos of themselves, sending them via means of technology and being upset when they are seen by the world. that is a legit statement to make. it is my opinion. it is not something i would ever do because nobody could handle it...i mean, because i KNOW that it could get into the wrong hand

This was stupid, more than it was a crime, fine the poor dude a couple bucks

Originally posted by Tea4One
Probably would have gotten less years if he raped someone. This is messed up, extremely messed up in fact.

This actually angers me.

Yeh, i can see that going down as a good example to younger generations;
Here's the scenario...

Rape = 5 years in jail
Publish a nude picture without authorization = 120 years in jail

I think the above is more disturbing than it would be to actually get raped.

Originally posted by greeneyedleo

1. her reputation was not damaged. i belive she has been nude in a movie before (but im not positive...im not a fan of hers, never seen her movies)....and well it only has driven more attention to her....for a celeb, this is good.

2. nobody here is saying that she was responsible for the crime.

i said people are idiots for taking nude photos of themselves, sending them via means of technology and being upset when they are seen by the world. that is a legit statement to make. it is my opinion. it is not something i would ever do because nobody could handle it...i mean, because i KNOW that it could get into the wrong hand

1. I have not seen the photos, and can't say if they were lewd in a way that would somehow reduce her in the eyes of her family, colleagues or her fans...so I will have to partially back off on this statement. I do however think that there is a difference between being seen nude in a movie, in which you are playing a role (and you obviously give your permission to be released), and having some other type of nude pictures being stolen from you and released.

I suppose, then, that this celebrity should be paying him some kind of compensation for the financial benefit she is realizing from his crimes against her...(tongue in cheek)

2. Hmmmm...let's see...

Adyta says, "Don't take a picture you wouldn't want online..."

You said, "if you dont want your goods out there....then keep them under your clothing in the privacy of your home"

imaperson said, "If my sister was over 18 and sending nude photos of herself...I would sympathise with the hacker, and I would think that it is mostly my sisters fault anyway."

So...I think some people are suggesting that she is somehow partially responsible for the crime committed against her.

Don't walk down the street without a suit of armour, a gattling gun and a pit bull if you don't want to get mugged.

reply to post by Adyta


Meanwhile, the person who may leak nude photos of me will face a fine if that...

Originally posted by mobiusmale


2. Hmmmm...let's see...

Adyta says, "Don't take a picture you wouldn't want online..."

You said, "if you dont want your goods out there....then keep them under your clothing in the privacy of your home"

imaperson said, "If my sister was over 18 and sending nude photos of herself...I would sympathise with the hacker, and I would think that it is mostly my sisters fault anyway."

So...I think some people are suggesting that she is somehow partially responsible for the crime committed against her.

Don't walk down the street without a suit of armour, a gattling gun and a pit bull if you don't want to get mugged.

ok....i get what you are getting at....but i am not holding her respnsible...my statement stands....photos get passed around not just by criminal means....its just common sense...

and as a woman....i will say to other woman.....you should take self defense and carry a weapon (even if just pepper spray - in my state a gun)....you should always be prepared....

i also suggest to women....dont go to bars by yourself and take drinks from strangers....

that doesnt mean i would blame a victim of a crime. i would not. but it is up to OURSELVES to protect ourselves. and that includes not sending out naked pics of oneself....we cant expect everyone else to be law abiding citizens, therefore, we need to do whatever we can to protect ourselves.....

Scarlett has gone on the record saying she is not ashamed of the pics.

A study in Scarlett

And even laughed a bit about it on Letterman


She says that the creepy part was realizing that the guy was looking through her account all the time.

She's gorgeous...and I WANT TO SEE THOSE PHOTOS!

Anyway, sentence quoted is BS, and if my memory serves me, something similar was mooted for this dude below (but ended up with 1 year):

LOS ANGELES – A New York man who admitted illegally uploading to the Internet a pirated, nearly final “workprint” copy of the movie “X-Men Origins: Wolverine” was sentenced this afternoon to one year in federal prison.

Gilberto Sanchez, 49, who resides in The Bronx and who used screen names that were variations on “skillz,” was sentenced by United States District Judge Margaret M. Morrow, who described the offense as “extremely serious.” In addition to the prison term, Judge Morrow imposed one year of supervised release and numerous computer restrictions.

“The federal prison sentence handed down in this case sends a strong message of deterrence to would-be Internet pirates,” said United States Attorney André Birotte Jr. “The Justice Department will pursue and prosecute persons who seek to steal the intellectual property of this nation.”

it's obvious that TPTB have to keep inventing more and more crimes for us, as next to WARS, the JUSTICE system is HUGE BUSINESS

Originally posted by greeneyedleo


ok....i get what you are getting at....but i am not holding her respnsible...my statement stands....photos get passed around not just by criminal means....its just common sense...

and as a woman....i will say to other woman.....you should take self defense and carry a weapon (even if just pepper spray - in my state a gun)....you should always be prepared....

i also suggest to women....dont go to bars by yourself and take drinks from strangers....

that doesnt mean i would blame a victim of a crime. i would not. but it is up to OURSELVES to protect ourselves. and that includes not sending out naked pics of oneself....we cant expect everyone else to be law abiding citizens, therefore, we need to do whatever we can to protect ourselves.....

Agree.

I am pleasantly surprised with your stance on self defense.

Scarlett Johansson is a victim. Scarlett Johansson is also complacent with believing those photos would not get out to the public. Lesson learned for her. Pic Leaker will face his turn on learning a lesson soon,albeit one that will make him into a poster boy for hackers.

If this was ANYONE else,the hacker would get off lightly,MHO

reply to post by Adyta

121 years for doing what the US government does on a daily basis.

Never hack, steal, lie, spy, cheat, rape, rob, plunder, or murder. Our government hates competition.