Blood Magic - Real or Sympathetic Neurology?, page 3
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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 08:28 PM by galadofwarthethird
reply to post by Aeons



Oh don't mind the demons and dimensions, because like you know! they don't exist, and its all about who is your favorite dude in a suite on the tube. And if your for the red team, or the blue team.

But the whole control women to control men to control societies is old, and eventually it would have reached its limit, so something new is coming down the wire...But fear not you wont live long enoph for that anyways, way past your time...I mean how long do humans live anyways, like 500 years or something.

Anyways, its all been said and done before there really is nothing new under the sun.

Under the moon however that remains to be seen.


reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 10:56 PM by Aeons
reply to post by galadofwarthethird



You guys have the best stories. Seriously.

But let us talk about the premise here! If you're running around with these stories, don't you think, just like blood magic, what you are really doing is making stories to account for neurological, psychological or physiological processes? Or keeping to old stories that suit your psychological make-up to account for the effect of certain behaviours or actions on groups of other people?

Nothing new under the sun. I feel a Battlestar Galatica reference coming on. "All this has happened before...."

edit to add!

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reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 11:38 PM by NewAgeMan
reply to post by Aeons


I think if there is such a thing, and there probably is, that it's utterly disgusting, and an grevious offence against both man and God.

Only one among us, was fit to shed blood as an atonement, but the taking, and using of another's blood to gain power is the lowest of lows.


reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 10:16 PM by mistermonculous
reply to post by Aeons



You know what? I'll play.

Cutting oneself for any reason? Yucky by definition. For why? Self harm.

Cutting (or butchering) something else? Try it sometime. See how that goes for you.

ETA: The very fact that an increase in "surplus population" (yeah, I know, we're post yule, sue me) translates to a laissez-faire approach to all sorts of blood-letting should give us pause. If, that is, we're trying to perpetuate the new wet-wiring.
edit on 9-1-2012 by mistermonculous because: Which I think we are.



reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 10:43 PM by crystalbeing
Originally posted by tauristercus
Originally posted by Aeons
I'm curious about your opinions on the existence of Blood Magic. I've seen people refer to its use on ATS, and I'm curious about what it is that you think Blood Magic is exactly?

When some group or person is using Blood Magic, what do you suppose their goals are? How do you think this force works?

Is this some real force you believe in, or some form of psychological teasing where a person or group is using their own / other people's primal neural responses for new purposes?

Obviously from your statements above, you're a believer in this so-called "blood magic" effect.
For those of us who exist in a more rational world and do NOT believe in this sort of stuff, would you please supply just ONE incontrovertible and unarguable example of such "blood magic". Also, if it were to exist, please explain the science/chemistry behind it's effects ?

Again, all I'm asking is for just ONE rock solid piece of evidence for it's existence. Shouldn't be hard to produce, hey ?????


Hitler was into the occult and had a blood flag ceremony. They were celebrating the men who died on their failed revolution when Hitler used the flag that had blood from when 16 men died and one died on the flag. He then rubbed that falg on every flag in the ceremony which was a lot and shook every soilders hand. I saw better footage of this blood magick ceremony on the History channel.
www.youtube.com...

Magick happens all around you, you just cant see it. My theory is the blood carries something in it with a quantum effect with the eather. The emotion of dying that day or the discharge of life force could charge the blood in some way. This could mean anyone who comes in contact with just atoms of this bood would be linked together with this emotion. Hitler was insuring war.


reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 10:52 PM by Aeons
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Now I used to have an acquaintance who used to do pagan things with a Voodun priestess. I talked with her a couple of times about blood magic in Voodun. The arguments were quite adamant, and I really don't think she liked me very much afterwards.

She was quite adamant that I was just utterly mistaken and self-righteous about the use of blood and killing. She thought it was an excellent tool and not only didn't have qualms but was down right offended by me. I offend lots of people, and the level of her feelings of offense remain as some of the worst reaction I've ever invoked in someone.


reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 11:27 PM by mistermonculous
reply to post by Aeons



Folks get surprisingly uptight over practices they feel to be viscerally distasteful. They sublimate those feelings into a pseudo-moralistic or hokum-mystical construct.

It's all about leveraging a shock to the system into a mystical experience. It's just gaming another center. And people are touchy about that, because violating your front-brain impulses to get some kind of transcendental rush is, well, sleazy.


reply posted on 10-1-2012 @ 07:47 PM by NewAgeMan
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I was mistaken, there's something even lower, which would be the ritual sacrifice of a human being(s).

"...sacrificed, on the alter of freedom."
~ Rudolf Guiliani, 9/11 memorial service, '04 or '05

in other words, such "sacrifices" can come in many forms, and needn't involve a bunch of hooded figures and torches surrounding a sacrificial alter.

The whole gambit of occult sacrifice, ritual blood magic, whatever, is an absolute disgrace, imho. I almost tremble for such folks, what they will do when they encounter the white throne of the living God, when there's nowhere left to run or hide from a just judgement.

The good news, however, for such people, is that while they are still drawing breath, there is still time to turn, and be healed, and to have their robes washed in the blood of the lamb, who alone is worthy, and trustworthy.

"That which hurts, instructs."
~ Benjamin Franklin

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reply posted on 11-1-2012 @ 03:26 AM by 1littlewolf
reply to post by NewAgeMan



Most blood magic is done with either the own practitioners blodd or blood which is freely given. In this sense is not too much different from any other form of magick which involves hair or fingernails or any other ingrediant originally from the human body.

Human or animal sacrifice is obviously a horrible practise. But humans kill each other for stupid meaningless reason all the time; and if you look at the bigger picture is it any worse to kill an animal to attain some kind of esoteric power (especially when the soul already has the power to achieve anything) than it is to kill an animal to make a fur coat (when the are plenty of substitutes which do not require killing at all)?

It is actually strong emotional responses such as yours NewAgeMan which is the overall key to the power of blood in the first place.


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reply posted on 11-1-2012 @ 03:53 AM by Thurisaz
reply to post by Aeons



placebo effect only as per majic but it can transfer blood diseases.



reply posted on 11-1-2012 @ 11:17 PM by NewAgeMan
reply to post by 1littlewolf


Point taken, and that last bit is almost amuzing, maybe.. and in truth I was thinking of certain passages in the book of The Revelation of John with regards to the revolting nature of such practices.

It might be worth considering however, that the waging of war, at times, may very well represent a type of ritual blood sacrifice..en mass, in which case perhaps it might be in everyone's best interest if such practices, in all forms, were to come to an end..

We need a new world, and yes, a new age, the time has surely come, and are not these types of things just part of one whole spectrum of abhorant and disgusting things at enmity with both man and God..?

I see your point, but do you see where I'm coming from?

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reply posted on 12-1-2012 @ 02:15 PM by NewAgeMan
reply to post by NewAgeMan


Illustrative Anecdote re: Bloody War

In the early stages of World War II, Franklin D. Roosevelt purportedly called Winston Churchill to ask of him, "What shall we call this war?" to which Churchill replied immediately and without hesitation "The UNECCESSARY WAR!"
~ Winston Churchill, from The Gathering Storm, Volume I, World War II Memoirs

"That which hurts, instructs."
~ Benjamin Franklin


"I ask for mercy, NOT sacrifice!"
~ Jesus Christ

edit on 12-1-2012 by NewAgeMan because: damn typo fixed, yet without any bloodshed.



reply posted on 12-1-2012 @ 10:48 PM by NewAgeMan
reply to post by NuclearPaul


Good find!

The ah.. "problem" (that's the understatement of the ages) with that symbol emblem, just for the record, isn't the cross itself, which signifies the willing, and neccessary, self-sacrifice of the high priest of the universal temple of the living God, who said "I ask for mercy, not sacrifice."

Love, not hatred, is the governing dynamic of the universe, and there is just no place anymore, either on this world, or in any other for this kind of thing, it's time has come to an end, and those who continue to practice such things will surely pay a heavy price, although all vengeance belongs to God alone, who is just in his judgements.

It is important however, to remember, that the high standard of the twin pillars of justice and mercy, is forgiveness, from the apex at Calvary or Golgotha, to wherever each person lives, moves and has their being, and while alive we each have time to repent, turn and be healed. Although I would imagine that willful persistence in such things, once warned, and the Bible is very clear on this issue (see The Revelation of John for more), may very well be another matter altogether. Best I would think to shut the door on it all and throw away the key forever, or at least for a 1000 years!

The time has come for peace on earth and good will to men, each to a one, "Darth Vadar" (whoever he is) included.

The 9 Fruits of the Spirit

1.Love
2.Joy
3.Peace
4.Longsuffering (Patience)
5.Kindness
6.Goodness
7.Faithfulness
8.Gentleness
9.Self-control

"You will know them by their fruits."

"I ask for mercy, not sacrifice."

Best Regards, and with much Love,

NAM
[I hereby proclaim my absolute freedom to express my views, although I really have nothing more to say, or add on this matter.]

May health and healing be yours this new year and beyond in the name of Jesus Christ (whether you believe or not). Amen!


reply posted on 17-5-2012 @ 08:21 AM by Eidolon23


Seems reasonable.

And yet you won't find a single example of menstruation pron. I know, I've gone digging for it. The only thing in the entire world that hasn't been fetishized and transformed into a sub-genre. Also, fear and disgust seem to be universal responses, most cultures having developed elaborate rules and deep-seated taboos around this lady bizness.

Any chance that's due to menstruation hitting the same trigger (disgust, fear) as bloodshed, simply by virtue of its being likewise bloody?
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