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In a way, the EPA allows pollution to occur. They give out permits that allow an acceptable level of pollution. Were this handled through property rights, the penalties would be much more severe and strictly enforced
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by juveous
reply to post by Annee
Well with that compound list of responsibilities of course it outweighs the need for a president to have been prior service.
When being serious and presenting a position - - I do try to use logic without emotional bias.
And facts if available.
reply to post by Praetorius
First off, I would assume he was actually out campaigning, not at the office. Secondly, while Paul acknowledges non-violent resistance and activism, he is also quite clear on the record that sometimes people will have to pay the legal price for such, and blocking traffic access to a business or private property is illegal, while protesting itself is not.
I understand there are laws on trespassing. But this guy is running for president, and these are the people he is supposed to be representing. Why didn't Mr Paul's office just invite them to return at some later date to discuss the issues they were protesting? That is not what happened. They were asked to leave and when they refused they were arrested. They were not given any recourse to present their grievances to Dr Paul by his representatives there, they were instead told to leave. That just doesn't mesh well with open mindedness to free speech and ideas, which is what I am told Ron Paul is supposed to represent. I don't hate Ron Paul. I just question some of his positions, and I have been met with hostility for even doing that by some posters on here. If we are going to truly move into positive change, I think everyone should have the chance to be heard at least.
Originally posted by openminded2011
reply to post by yourboycal2
I am more in favor of thinking with the mind than the heart. He is just another right wing republican with a bend. He will continue the agenda of the 1 percent at the expense of everyone else. All you have to do is look at his positions and its plainly visible. He wants to cut taxes for the rich and corporations, gut environmental and labor protections, and eliminate the social safety net. This is just the same bag of goods they have been selling since Reagan, with disastrous results. You can pack manure in a pretty box and gift wrap it and spray it with perfume, but it still contains manure.
Originally posted by budcin
I think it is better to cherish ALL life
Originally posted by openminded2011
I know a lot of people like him because of his isolationist position on world affairs and his willingness to legalize weed, but there are some real concerns that people should have regarding some of his other positions. Even though he might be viewed as the underdog and an alternative to the mainstream GOP, a lot of his positions fall right in line with the republican agenda that has decimated our country for 30 years now. I know this will rub a lot of people the wrong way, but here are my 3 main reasons I will not vote for him:
1. Dr Paul wants to eliminate the Environmental protection agency. Our country is already heavily polluted and he would remove the remaining obstacles corporations face to pollute even further. The last thing we need is more power for corporations to pollute our air and water. The disaster in the Gulf of Mexico would become one of many disasters if this is allowed.
2.He is no friend of working people. He supports abolishing the Federal minimum wage, has twice introduced legislation to repeal OSHA, or the Occupational Safety and Health Act and would deal devastating blows to Social Security including repealing the act that makes it mandatory for employees of nonprofits, to make “coverage completely optional for both present and future workers”, and would “freeze benefit levels”. He has also twice sponsored legislation seeking to repeal the Davis-Bacon Act and the Copeland Act which among other things provide that contractors for the federal government must provide the prevailing wage and prohibits corporate “kick backs.” see the bills: H.R.2030, H.R.4604, H.R.736, and H.R.2720
3. Ron Paul’s tax plan is unfair to lower earners and would greatly benefit those with the highest incomes.He has repeatedly submitted amendments to the tax code that would get rid of the estate and gift taxes, tax all earners at 10%, disallow income tax credits to individuals who are not corporations, repeal the elderly tax credit, child care credit, earned income credit, and other common credits for working class citizens. refer to bill H.R.05484
I feel that Dr Pauls yearning for smaller government is just to facilitate removing the obstructions government poses to the top one percent and predatory capitalism. We would see a return to the guilded age where a small powerful elite rules over the country like feudal nobles over the rest of us. He is a wolf in sheeps clothing and I am worried that people dont seem to see this or want to see this. There is a war being waged against the working class in this country and this guy is NOT on our side of the fence.
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher:
If he were to be Elected our next President , this Bill , which has Now become Law , would be repealed by a newly elected President Paul along with it's enabler the Patriot Act by Executive Order.
So he would overturn the vote of our Constitutionally elected Congressman based on his opinion alone???
No thanks...I don't want a dictator.
So much for following that Constitution...huh???