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reply posted on 5-1-2012 @ 01:17 PM by jibeho

reply to post by projectvxn

Good Stuff! I often see people at the range who just treat their weapons like they have minds of their own. Especially new handgun shooters. I don't often see black rifle shooters in the indoor range.

On that note, I strongly suggest that people explore the principles and opportunities presented by the Appleseed Project and the RWVA.

www.backwoodshome.com...

I put together a Liberty Training Rifle some time ago and the principles learned with it easily carry over to a traditional AR platform especially when using Tech Sights and a USGI sling.

appleseedproject.blogspot.com...

Practice Practice Practice!!

Cheers!!

reply posted on 5-1-2012 @ 04:47 PM by Erno86

reply to post by projectvxn

Good thread mate--- You were really "getting into the gun." May I suggest something that I learned from Matt Burkett's excellent --- Shotgun Mastery --- DVD. --- You should shoot at least a string of six rapid fire rounds, to see if the shotgun is rocking you back. If it is--- adjust you body more.

May I add --- That you should have the majority of your weight on the ball's of your feet --- as you did in the vid.

I noticed that your support hand on the vertical foregrip, was alittle to low, thus introducing more torque from the recoil of the gun. May I suggest something that I learned from--- Magpul --- Art of the AR-15 --- Instead of gripping the foregrip --- Grip your hand on the forearm, just ahead of the foregrip, using the vertical foregrip as a location point, for the rear portion of your hand. Lock both wrists, the same as you would hold a pistol; with your index finger on your support hand on the forearm pointed at the target. This position --- if you are not using SWAT or SEAL positions can allow you to raise your support elbow, into a higher position so you can get into the gun better.

Some Three Gunners, don't use the vertical foregrip at all.

reply posted on 7-1-2012 @ 10:56 PM by METACOMET

Originally posted by vogon42
reply to post by projectvxn

Good luck to you, and thank your for your commitment to our freedom.

I'd like to take this belated opportunity to echo the above statement. Good luck, projectvxn. You will be missed. Come back when you have some free time to say hello.

reply posted on 8-1-2012 @ 07:37 PM by The Old American

Originally posted by projectvxn
reply to post by NoClue206

I'm good at both. But I'll be honing those skills in basic starting Monday morning when I head out to Ft. Benning.

See ya at the range.
edit on 31-12-2011 by projectvxn because: (no reason given)

Take it to 'em, buddy. Be safe.

/TOA

reply posted on 9-1-2012 @ 03:00 PM by Erno86

A few helpful hints on the art of AR-15 form, can be taken from Jerry Muculek's AR-15 dvd. You can order it from Brownells.

Good luck to the OP,

Erno86

reply posted on 9-2-2012 @ 08:25 PM by MANtheLAUGHING

Originally posted by LeLeu
You guys are lucky. Aussies were disarmed by their government
so we're not allow to play with those toys.
But I do always like to watch videos of women shooting, especially
when they hurt themselves

This one is the best

YouTube Link

Happy new year fella's

TOODLES!!!

reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 12:59 AM by beautyndissonance

Originally posted by Aliensun
It is impossible to sight any long gun without tilting your head (and neck).
You still of your vid clearly shows that you are doing exactly what you claim you don't do.

WRONG. Have you ever heard of cheek weld? If you are tilting your head and neck when you are shooting any assault rifle, you are doing it wrong. 4 years in the Marines and 2 tours in Iraq says that its not impossible. I even use this technique shooting hunting rifles and shotguns to this day. The only time that you really have to tilt your neck is if you are shooting from the prone or sitting position. If you are up in the combat ready, and you know what you are doing, all you should have to do is bring the weapon up into your shoulder and put the stock into your cheek, your body will do the rest. No need to tilt your head or neck.

reply posted on 10-2-2012 @ 01:03 AM by beautyndissonance

Originally posted by Erno86
reply to post by projectvxn

Good thread mate--- You were really "getting into the gun." May I suggest something that I learned from Matt Burkett's excellent --- Shotgun Mastery --- DVD. --- You should shoot at least a string of six rapid fire rounds, to see if the shotgun is rocking you back. If it is--- adjust you body more.

May I add --- That you should have the majority of your weight on the ball's of your feet --- as you did in the vid.

I noticed that your support hand on the vertical foregrip, was alittle to low, thus introducing more torque from the recoil of the gun. May I suggest something that I learned from--- Magpul --- Art of the AR-15 --- Instead of gripping the foregrip --- Grip your hand on the forearm, just ahead of the foregrip, using the vertical foregrip as a location point, for the rear portion of your hand. Lock both wrists, the same as you would hold a pistol; with your index finger on your support hand on the forearm pointed at the target. This position --- if you are not using SWAT or SEAL positions can allow you to raise your support elbow, into a higher position so you can get into the gun better.

Some Three Gunners, don't use the vertical foregrip at all.

^^Good tips. I personally don't like foregrips, I'd much rather use an angle grip, or just grip the base of the magazine well. The only problem with this is that most foreign made assault rifles don't use a protruding magazine well like the m4 and variants. I find that when I use foregrips, I tend to focus too much on putting pressure on the foregrip, when in all reality all you should be using the foregrip to do is maintain proper front sight post alignment, your rear grip should be what you use to pull the weapon into your shoulder, which also helps maintain positive trigger control.

reply posted on 11-2-2012 @ 10:15 AM by Erno86

reply to post by beautyndissonance

I'm sorry.... but I was slightly wrong on the Magpul DVD method. Chris Costa, from Magpul, suggests that the support hand thumb should be pointed towards the target. Matt Burkett's shotgun style, is the support hand index finger should be pointed towards the target. Magpul sells a pretty good angled foregrip, but I have not used one yet.

reply posted on 12-2-2012 @ 08:55 AM by doodiepants

reply to post by projectvxn

Good Luck! Long Live the Infantry!

reply posted on 12-2-2012 @ 09:24 AM by mactheaxe

just wanted to say, good videos on improving your shooting accuracy. however, because you are using an m4 and not bolt action, i wanted to share one tip i feel you left out. it does help accuracy and its a little m4 or m16 secret. place the tip of your nose on the charging handle. dont squash it or anything, just lightly. remember that spot. now you will have virtually the same sight picture everytime. just my two cents. i am a veteran, served in kuwait in 04 with the army, so i know a little about em.

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