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Due to his concerns about the scripted nature of the new exercise,
Van Riper resigned his position in the midst of the war game.
Van Riper later expressed concern that the wargame's purpose had shifted to reinforce existing doctrine and notions of infallibility within the U.S. military rather than serve as a learning experience.
He was quoted in the ZDF–New York Times documentary The Perfect War[4] as saying that what he saw in MC02 echoed the same view promoted by the Department of Defense under Robert McNamara
The Perfect War[4] as saying that what he saw in MC02 echoed the same view promoted by the Department of Defense under Robert McNamara before and during the Vietnam War, namely that the U.S. military could not and would not be defeated.
Originally posted by Cosmic4life
A nation like Iran means...
..well stocked with up to date missile capabilities.
..able to draw on its resources.
Look at a map...Iran has an even bigger super duper carrier...it's called Iran.
You cannot project enough force on Iran with a single carrier group
hell it took 6 months of preparation to attack Iraq who were mostly conscripts and didn't want to fight anyway, Iran is a different proposition altogether.
Originally posted by isaac 7777
You really think Russia or China would go to war over Iran? Especially if Iran closed the strait?
Originally posted by fiorano
To be frank- the simulation was in 2002- which means in 10 years time since, I am sure the USN has worked out the bugs.
The carrier group fights with not only ships but a myriad of aircraft, and these will certainly help out, the scenario is interesting, and a big ship may get crippled, but the Battle group won't the USN is not a bunch of untested amateurs, this is not unknown technology, this would bring the hurt.
I have much family who served in Iraq/Afghanistan/Serbia/ Bosnia and there is crap the military has, no official news media has any idea exists, there is some trick stuff, it isn't just big boats and big guns.
there have been missteps in the US foreign policy in the past administrations, but I have full faith in what this country is aiming to accomplish and how they do it, I am not a sheep, but I am invested in the land I live in in my neighbors and family and simply I believe in what they can accomplish when the goal is set.
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Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Wouldn't surprise me if they were willing to ``sacrifice`` those soldiers. Wouldn't be the first time a government does this.
Oh COME ON.. Here we go again.
If the US wanted to sacrifice something it'd sacrifice a boat, a sub, a ship.. not an entire fleet worth of hundreds of billions of dollars just to give themselves an OK to go to war.
Originally posted by buster2010
Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Wouldn't surprise me if they were willing to ``sacrifice`` those soldiers. Wouldn't be the first time a government does this.
Oh COME ON.. Here we go again.
If the US wanted to sacrifice something it'd sacrifice a boat, a sub, a ship.. not an entire fleet worth of hundreds of billions of dollars just to give themselves an OK to go to war.
Really don't know much about America do you? Look up The Gulf of Tonkin Incident the president lied to America to drag us into war with Vietnam so what makes you think we won't do it again? The US is more than capable of falsifying enough evidence to get us into war. Just look at 9/11 it worked then so it will work again.
Originally posted by rigel4
Woudn't the US navy simply stay out of Hormuz, thus avoiding close proximity fighting withthe small craft.
I think so.
Stay out of their range and mop them up with aircraft and helicoptors.