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Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Having done 6 deployments to the Persian Gulf, all on carriers, I can assure you that Iran's speed boats are no match for the 25 .50 cal mounts, the minimum of 4 SH-60 Seahawk Helicopters with .50 cal, GAU-17 miniguns and Hellfire missiles, the destroyers with the same weapons capability, Tomahawks, Harpoons, and torpedoes. If I had a dime for every time an Iranian speedboat made a run at my ship I would be a rich man. It is almost impossible to sink a Nimitz class carrier. Bottom line is that Iran is no match for the U.S. Navy. Oh, I almost forgot... an aircraft carrier, as a last resort, can outrun a speedboat. A Nimitz Class carrier can reach speeds in excess of 70 mph with no problem. Also, if I had a dime for every time Iran threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz I would be very rich. This is nothing new... in fact this news story made me yawn, and so does the "analysis" provided in the OP.
Originally posted by dave_welch
reply to post by eyespying
3 kilos, a match for a carrier, yes, that's more than true, if the carrier is alone, to bad that at all times a U.S. carrier is surrounded by a BATTLE GROUP!!!!!!!! Why does everyone forget that fact. Let me break it down for you in crayon.
1. The usual battle group has around 5 combatants other than the HVU (carrier or amphib). Each of these ships have active and passive sonar, along with most of them having highly sensative, narrowband towed arrays.
2. At least one Los Angeles class attack submarine, sometimes a Virginia class. Either of them out class a kilo.
3. Although the Kilo class is a great diesel submarine, it is still a diesel submarine, top speed submerged is around 17 knots. They blast out a 50 Hz signature, broadcasting that they are not an ally. They can only stay submerged for a matter of hours at they're quietest and most frugal speed (around 4 knots). Also, all ships carry A/N SLQ-25, aka nixie, a very good counter torpedo tool, along with several other countermeasures.
My point is, do some research.
The only country that actually was fought by anti-ship missiles was Britain during the Falkland war and the Argentinians was using what few exocet missiles they had on a couple of planes. They hit 3 ships and sunk one possibly two, the rest where damaged severely.
And by "accident" Sadam Hussiens forces almost sunk one of our Aegis cruisers with an Exocet during the Iran Iraq war. And the Aegis is a anti-missile ship. The type of anti-ship missiles that Iran has are specificially designed to kill Carriers and evade anti-missile systems.
The SSN 21 Seawolf could sink all of Iranian submarines easily.
The Iranians would probably shoot about 20 Chinese silkworm antiship missiles instead.
I'm sure the admirals in charge have a contingency plan already in place.
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Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by pteridine
I'm pretty sure there were lots of children in Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
Didn't stop the US from dropping nukes on them, as usual we have a case of selected morality.
They (the Iranian youth) were defending their country, show me a nation that won't have young volunteers when SHTF.
I will defend any and all nations that have not made an act of aggression in over 300 yrs, Iran poses absolutely no threat to the US whatsoever, yet here we are, the US being Israel's attack dog as usual.
Back to the subject, Iran only has to concentrate on the 35 mile wide bottleneck in the Strait, they probably have a passive sensor array on the seabed, it would be very easy to fill such a small area with mines, they have advanced anti-shipping and surface to air missiles.