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Originally posted by princeofpeace
Ummm no-the title of the thread is "Why the US navy will be destroyed in Hormuz".
The USS John Stennis is NOT the US navy. It is indeed a PART of the Navy, but is not the US Navy. OP needs to change the title then if this is not what is meant but they have failed to do so after being called out numerous times so we can only infer that his title stands as to his belief.
Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by princeofpeace
Er no, the OP is talking about the Stennis Carrier group and possibly one other.
One or two other posters then exaggerated this into the whole US Navy, which of course is physically impossible.
And my comment about the Nimitz and Ford class Carriers is on topic.
Cosmic..
Originally posted by Darkrunner
So the basis for this is a computer game?
Alrighty then.
Originally posted by Cosmic4life
Originally posted by princeofpeace
Ummm no-the title of the thread is "Why the US navy will be destroyed in Hormuz".
The USS John Stennis is NOT the US navy. It is indeed a PART of the Navy, but is not the US Navy. OP needs to change the title then if this is not what is meant but they have failed to do so after being called out numerous times so we can only infer that his title stands as to his belief.
Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by princeofpeace
Er no, the OP is talking about the Stennis Carrier group and possibly one other.
One or two other posters then exaggerated this into the whole US Navy, which of course is physically impossible.
And my comment about the Nimitz and Ford class Carriers is on topic.
Cosmic..
Well maybe he should've said Part of the US Navy will be destroyed in Hormuz to make it easier for you to understand, if you had read the whole thread from start to finish you would know, it's been commented on and clarified several times.
Cosmic..
Originally posted by jhn7537
Becasue we arent allies with them and to be honest, we have a crappy relationship with them, so obviously they would keep tabs on what they're doing...If my enemy was building nuclear weapons id be worried too.... The United States is in a position to tell other countries what they can and cant do, if someone wants to try and stop them, they are more than welcome to try...
Originally posted by MrSpad
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Originally posted by jhn7537
reply to post by EarthCitizen07
Ill agree that they are likely getting annoyed, but I wont agree with the OP when he suggested that if a conflict started between the US and Iran, Russia would get involved and nuke DC and NYC.... I just dont understand where people get this stuff at... It doesnt make any sense...
You are kidding right? Why does europe and the usa care so much about iran?
I only hear iran and "the west" threatning each other.
Why doesn't anyone else in the region make a ruckus about iran?
At least during the first gulf war most dictators/kings supported the war effort.
It seems to be a religious crusade of christianity, islam and judaism going at it.
A display of hypocrisy and ignorance at its best!
Russia and china WILL eventually attack if they get cornered enough. I don't think they can afford to lose many more allies in trade. It is starting to become very dangerous for all sides involved. We need more diplomacy and less threats.
Iran gets along with almost no one. Every nation in the region other than Syria has been pressuring the West to do something about Iran for along time. Even Russia works with US to contain Iran even though it trades with them. After a long history of assasinations, coup attempts and terror attacks in almost every muslim nation on Earth you will find that Iran is less popular in the Islamic world then even in the west.
Originally posted by sweetnlow
The US navy could just retool the Wisconsin with phalyanx systems and load nukes in the cruise missile pods and nuke warheads for the guns and by itself retire IRAN
Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by murch
If the more you kill the more it creates argument were valid, then the Taliban and Al Queida would have no reason what so ever to seek diplomatic talks to ends hostilities. The same goes for Hamas / Hezbullah / Palestinians.
I think you mistake resolve of a group of people while ignoring the fact they dont have quite the popular support of the people. As far as US forces go I think you also underestimate the fact our military is volunteer and not forced, which contrary to popular belief does make a difference.
Originally posted by OptimusSubprime
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Having done 6 deployments to the Persian Gulf, all on carriers, I can assure you that Iran's speed boats are no match for the 25 .50 cal mounts, the minimum of 4 SH-60 Seahawk Helicopters with .50 cal, GAU-17 miniguns and Hellfire missiles, the destroyers with the same weapons capability, Tomahawks, Harpoons, and torpedoes. If I had a dime for every time an Iranian speedboat made a run at my ship I would be a rich man. It is almost impossible to sink a Nimitz class carrier. Bottom line is that Iran is no match for the U.S. Navy. Oh, I almost forgot... an aircraft carrier, as a last resort, can outrun a speedboat. A Nimitz Class carrier can reach speeds in excess of 70 mph with no problem. Also, if I had a dime for every time Iran threatened to close the Strait of Hormuz I would be very rich. This is nothing new... in fact this news story made me yawn, and so does the "analysis" provided in the OP.
TEHRAN, Iran – Iran backed down Saturday from its earlier threats to block the strategic oil route through the Strait of Hormuz, apparently confirming U.S. assertions that such threats packed more "bluster" than bite.
Talk of blocking the strategic oil route through the Strait of Hormuz is a discussion of the past, a commander of Iran's Revolutionary Guard said Saturday, but he said Iran had other, unspecified strategies for reacting to any Western aggression.
"Discourse about closing the Strait of Hormuz belongs to five years ago. Today's debate in the Islamic Republic of Iran contains new layers and the time has not come to raise it," Gen. Masoud Jazayeri said in comments posted Saturday on the Guard's website, sepahnews.com.