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Originally posted by butcherguy
Like I said, the Silkworms were going to kick our butts back then, and they didn't. That was what we were told, that they had tons of them and would loose them upon us. The Silkworms weren't old tech at the time.
Originally posted by susp3kt
Originally posted by butcherguy
The Iraqis fired one at us and the Brits shot it down with one of their anti-missile missiles.
That may be so, & then it might not be, but the C-802 nor the Nasr-1 are no outdated Silkworms though.
The single shot hit probability of the Yingji-82 is estimated to be as high as 98%
The Nasr-1 is undetectable on radar.
Now it's being said again, and I just happen to think that we are hearing some more tired old rhetoric. Again.
Originally posted by area6
1 CSG destroyed does not equal "US Navy destoyed".
It does equal 600,000 square miles of Iranian glass.
Think it's worth it?
"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." Henry Kissinger, quoted by Bob Woodward in The Final Days, 1976
Not all of the details about how Force Red accomplished this have been revealed. The Pentagon managed to keep much of the story out of the press. But a thoroughly disgruntled Van Riper himself leaked enough to the Army Times that it's possible to get at a sense of how a much weaker force outfoxed and defeated the world's lone remaining Superpower.1
I'm angered that, in a sense, $250 million was wasted. But I'm even more angry that an idea that has never been truly validated, that never really went through the crucible of a real experiment, is being exported to our operational forces to use. ~Lt. Gen. Paul Van Riper
Originally posted by popsmayhem
no army on earth that could beat America
in a all out war.
Originally posted by Cosmic4life
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Well OP i think you are correct....
..logic dictates that a Carrier group is no match for a whole national armory.
Iran will use its large arsenal of missiles to overwhelm any defensive systems, together with torpedo's from subs and fast attack boats.
The Stennis Carrier group may very well be able to stop..10..20..missiles, but it won't be able to cope with hundreds of missiles coming its way simultaneously, it's just a ridiculous proposition by people with more pride and arrogance than intelligence.
History shows us that technology is not the decisive factor in warfare, the ability to rapidly mobilize forces and to keep them stocked is far more crucial, logistically the US Carrier group is already sunk, they may be able to fight for 24 hrs but after that they will need to resupply whereas Iran can keep firing all day, all week.
A Carrier group against a nation like Iran...no contest, Iran wins.
It would not be the first time strategic planners were willing to make a sacrifice for a larger goal, they KNOW the carrier group will be destroyed, they KNOW Iran will destroy Saudi Oil Refineries and Pipelines, they think they KNOW what a $500 per barrel of Oil world will look like.
Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
Meanwhile grey and reptillian aliens have been abducting people for decades, if not centuries.
Originally posted by randomname
no aircraft carrier can withstand a missile assault. the truth is aircraft carriers haven't been tested seriously in war since ww2, when anti-ship missile technology didn't exist.
edit on 30-12-2011 by randomname because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LongbottomLeaf
reply to post by IsraeliGuy
Nothing like throwing cold hard facts into people's faces