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Originally posted by IsraeliGuy
Originally posted by Vitchilo
Wouldn't surprise me if they were willing to ``sacrifice`` those soldiers. Wouldn't be the first time a government does this.
Oh COME ON.. Here we go again.
If the US wanted to sacrifice something it'd sacrifice a boat, a sub, a ship.. not an entire fleet worth of hundreds of billions of dollars just to give themselves an OK to go to war.
Like I said, the Silkworms were going to kick our butts back then, and they didn't. That was what we were told, that they had tons of them and would loose them upon us. The Silkworms weren't old tech at the time.
Originally posted by susp3kt
Originally posted by butcherguy
The Iraqis fired one at us and the Brits shot it down with one of their anti-missile missiles.
That may be so, & then it might not be, but the C-802 nor the Nasr-1 are no outdated Silkworms though.
The single shot hit probability of the Yingji-82 is estimated to be as high as 98%
The Nasr-1 is undetectable on radar.
Originally posted by Dbriefed
Navy ships and the subs that escort them carry nuclear warheads.
The last war the US decisively won, was ended by Nukes. That was also the last war where nations targeted population centers instead of containing them to military and strategic targets. The US didn't either 'win' or finish the Korean war, the Vietnam war, the Iraqi war, or any war since WWII. There was no victory parade for the military returning from Iraq since it was an early withdrawal.
If there was an overwhelming attack on the US Navy, the world would be shocked at repeatedly played news clips of Nuclear explosions in Iran.
Originally posted by randomname
no aircraft carrier can withstand a missile assault. the truth is aircraft carriers haven't been tested seriously in war since ww2, when anti-ship missile technology didn't exist.
edit on 30-12-2011 by randomname because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by mkgandhas
reply to post by pteridine
Military Men Are Just Dumb, Stupid Animals To Be Used As Pawns In Foreign Policy
Originally posted by apodictic
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Half of it WAS computer simulations. Did you even read anything about Millennium Challenge 2002 before you went and posted a topic about it? It was in the first freaking sentence of the Wikipedia which you quoted:
Millennium Challenge 2002 (MC02) was a major war game exercise conducted by the United States armed forces in mid-2002, likely the largest such exercise in history. The exercise, which ran from July 24 to August 15 and cost $250 million, involved both live exercises and computer simulations.
If you want to throw out quotes claiming that it wasn't scripted, I'll send you a page that says it was:
War games rigged? General says Millennium Challenge 02 ‘was almost entirely scripted’
Of course it's also very convenient of you to ignore OptimusSubprime's post. Someone with actual military experience, who has obviously experienced attacks in REAL LIFE. Not a "war game." Games are NOT war.
Yet you continue to act as if you know the entire arsenal of the modern military by using COMPLETELY outdated internet sources without ANY personal experience. The military, ESPECIALLY Nimitz class carriers, have weapons systems about 10 years ahead of what civilians are capable of. Keep that in mind, and now think about how much CIVILIAN technology has changed since 2002. Technology is always progressing. You seem to have some fetish for the destruction of our military.
Also you DO realize that we have missile defense systems and satellites so sensitive that they could be tracked within the first phase of their launch, correct? It's foolish to think that DC would be that easy of a target.
in your own link) So unscripted and in free play iran won.Scripted,the u.s won.Of course computers were used to simulate missiles and such unless you expected them to fire real missiles at each other.
almost entirely scripted