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Originally posted by BRAVO949
Every (most, many, quite a few - at least) teenage boy thinks he discovered sex.
Every (most, many, quite a few - at least) young soldier thinks his army is different, his war is new, his country is not like the countries others read about in history.
Smart old soldiers know that is not true. They know war is war and the tools are different but human flesh is the same as it was three million years ago when the first man ape hit the second man ape in the head with a rock.
The day "they" decided US troops should fight in Korea after WWII they did not, and I am talking about the politicians, young soldiers and even some old soldiers, think that there would be...
36,940 US dead
92,134 US wounded
3,737 US MIA
4,439 US POW
At the end.
Wiki - Korean War
Were the "serving" their country? No!
Did they win anything? No!
Was it worth even a skinned knee? No?
If you are not old enough to know anything about the Korean war and how badly the strategists were at figuring out what was going to happen then you better read about it before you sign-up or worse sign-on someone else to fire even a singel shot near Iran.
I am not saying Iran can defeat the US Navy or that Iran would not come out way worse but Korea was supposed to be a cake walk and it was until the other side (including China decided to actually fight) then it was not. Vietnam was a disaster and so is / was Iraq.
I have to remind you - just like the illegal invasion of Iraq - it is Israel that wants this war and the Israel lobby is conning the American public into it.
Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
reply to post by OptimusSubprime
You obviously missed my first post in this thread. They already tried your scenario and lost the entire battle group. They tried everything you said and still lost.
Are you saying that you tried this war game scenario where you were the commander and you won? Please provide evidence that your scenario worked. Otherwise you just failed.edit on 31-12-2011 by THE_PROFESSIONAL because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
It's for their own good and the Iranian people will thank us for the regime change.
The world will be a safer place.
Originally posted by OrphenFire
reply to post by OrphenFire
Here's an example of a CIWS in action.
Yeah...edit on 12/31/2011 by OrphenFire because: (no reason given)
China also built an entire missile plant in Iran last year to produce the Nasr-1 anti-ship cruise missile
Originally posted by OrphenFire
reply to post by Eurisko2012
I hope so.
The Chinese 'Silkworm' was going to sink all of our ships in the Persian Gulf at one time too.
Originally posted by susp3kt
Who cares about their speedboats?
Iran has Chinese & Russian anti-ship missiles. See here.
The Chinese Yingji-82 aka. C-802 anti-ship missile.
I hope all the warmongers are wrong & nothing happens, because Iran et al. will not be pushovers.edit on 31-12-2011 by susp3kt because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by stirling
To open the straights they would have to not only pass through it, they would have to block further attempts to mine or disrupt the traffic...This could be accomplished by simply sinking (or damaging) one tanker...
There would have to be a constant US presence to keep the ships passing through safely....
We WILL lose ships and men.....
We may not be able to do it without full blown warfare like bombing the Iranians back to the stone age.....
With conventional weapons of course....
This means a protracted air campaign against Iranian infrastructure......command and control....supply and re enforcement depots etc...
We would have to cripple their aboility to wage effective warfare and who can say how far that will take us?
Wed end up destroying Iran to ground level.....
This would take some time.....
Originally posted by butcherguy
The Iraqis fired one at us and the Brits shot it down with one of their anti-missile missiles.
The single shot hit probability of the Yingji-82 is estimated to be as high as 98%