reply to post by flexy123
My two cents, I don't see how us going to "save" these people from themselves does a damn thing but ensure we have future enemies that want to harm
A bit of fiction to get my point across.
Consider if China had a military base a few blocks from your house, hell a few miles even. On one of their "training" exercises a bunch of woman and
children from your home town are slaughtered by mistake. Wrong place at the wrong time. It is an accident , but to those families and friends of
those familie's enemies have now been created that want the Chinese OUT of that area. This is how "terrorists" are born. the reason the chinese are
here are questionable, on one hand they say they are here to stop a possible civil war between repubs and democrats, and on the other hand everyone
knows they need resources to feed their economy and huge population. Because all people are different, people will have different viewpoints. A
percentage of the population will believe that America is under attack(and become terrorists and try to repel the invasion), some will think its the
world working together, and many won't even know enough about what is going on to care. The point is the ROOT cause of all of this is that people are
DIFFERENT, the more we try to make everyone the same the more violence there has to be to "cleanse" the world of all those who don't share our
philosophy of the future.
My only addition to this topic is that while in principle you may be correct that these are really dangerous times on a global scale, what we are
doing is creating more of a problem. It is a war that is unwinnable without killing a large majority of the opposing side, and then it will only be
temporary peace as eventually the people that are left will figure out a way to get back what in their mind was "stolen" from them.
Now you believe that these conspiracy's are just crazy, and they may be less important than the topics you brought up. But we know that peace comes
from personal property rights that all governments should protect for their citizens. When personal property rights are held up as the unbreakable
law, there is no war, there is no money being spent for nothing, there is no reason to fight. What the world should be focused on is innovation, and
how to lessen the impact our population has on the rest of the world. And helping un-industrialized nations become self-sufficient, not stealing
their wealth, and resources.
What we should not be doing is centralizing income into a few hands, so that those few hands can create the world that THEY want without dealing with
the immoral, evil nature in which their goals are carried out.
Would you deny that rich people who are aligned against the 2nd amendment in America, aren't working towards dissolving the second amendment. These
wars, these deaths are ALL about money and power, and are meaningless. Their is no honor in killing people who are only defending their property.
Right now powerful corporations alligned against the second amendment are buying large gun and ammo businesses and closing them down. They couldn't
get laws passed in congress so they are taking the more expensive approach to doing it. If they make guns hard to get, is it not the same as
destroying the second amendment. If they devalue the dollar and have flat wages does it not make it harder to buy the things you need to defend your
I know this is a bit of a ramble, and unlike me, but your belief that conspiracies are just a fanciful waste of time, is nonsense. They are all tied
together, CONSPIRACY is the cause of all the topics you brought up, every single one of them. And when everyone finally wakes up, it will be too
late, you will not have property rights, you will not be able to support yourself without some kind of assistance, and your only means to being
successful will be to take a job where you work for the very people that caused the mess in the first place.
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