posted on Dec, 31 2011 @ 09:48 AM
Originally posted by daaskapital
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by daniel_g
Which nations are our friends? Why?
Would you not consider Australia, the UK or Canada as a friend? Remember that Australia has been involved in every single conflict with the US since
WW2. I would wager that Australia is a highly important ally
Sure I would. Then again, you could easily say Iraq was also our friend prior to their invasion of Kuwait (as Saddam was a useful CIA asset we
propped up and sold weapons to - who only became a problem when we became afraid he was endangering our oil interesting in Saudi Arabia).
Is Germany our friend? Italy? Japan? They were the great evils of the last century. What about Vietnam? Soviet Russia under Stalin (a brutal
dictator likely worse than Hitler, with a higher death count) was our friend against the first three.
Iran probably would be our friend, had we not been interfering in their internal affairs since the 50s, and historically judeo-christians have a lot
to thank them for (as Persia) for their king Cyrus helping the jews and allowing the return from Babylonian captivity. They also behave somewhat less
distastefully to their people than some of our more extreme allies, and have the largest jewish population of the muslim world, and second only to
Israel itself in the middle east.
Do you see what I'm getting at? These are shifting sands with unclear truths & motivations, and OUR interests frequently tend to have quite a lot to
do with it. And people are people - it's generally not the population of a country that leads it to war as they are living their own lives more or
less as we are, but rather the political or military interests of its leaders.
And if one of our close allies started to resemble our 'enemies'? We're already close there, with Israel being as hostile to us as they are from
an intelligence-gathering standpoint and having the internal policies they do with the palestinians - that otherwise have lead us to attack people
with similar conditions.
It is altogether too murky, too costly, and too morally foggy for us to go interjecting ourselves into the disputes of others, especially when we have
so many problems we ourselves need to deal with, and an honestly questionable track record.