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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 07:54 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
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So, you ruled out Romney on looks alone...real in depth decision on your part.



I will rephrase for the slow to catch: He looks like a liar. And yes, our brains are designed to read body language. I may be wrong about him being a liar, but I also don't support his views on immigration (and that's the main reason I don't support most other candidates), Ron Paul had the only stance I supported regarding that issue. Everything else they offer is the same thing but different words. Funny how 1 policy can make a difference. However, this thread is not about that, is it?
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by daniel_g

Originally posted by Destinyone
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So, you ruled out Romney on looks alone...real in depth decision on your part.



I will rephrase for the slow to catch: He looks like a lier. I also don't support his views on immigration, but this thread is not about that, is it?


You are right, this thread is not about Romney and your assessment of his looks as being the reason you are not voting for him.

This thread is about, something you admit, you may, or may not have heard on a radio, in a noisy room. Certainly to you, important enough to come onto ATS and start a thread on.

Then this vague at best thread turned into you making statements about Ron Paul's foreign policy that were not true, and better informed members giving you accurate data. Which for some reason you really don't care to look at.

Then this thread morphed into you being paranoid.....and here we are



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by DankKing420
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if you really cared about who you voted for you would find time to find news sources other than the msm. its doesnt have to be a conspiracy forum either. and for you to even have an account on ATS shows that you have more time that your letting on


Excuse me DankKing, isn't that what I'm trying to do? I'm trying to find a source and all I get is a bunch of replies that don't contain anything of what I'm asking for. I don't care what Paul said 5 years ago or how ATS members interpret that information, I care about what he is saying now. I want to know the context of what I heard because I don't trust that msm. Else why in the heck did I create this thread?


Originally posted by Destinyone
This thread is about, something you admit, you may, or may not have heard on a radio, in a noisy room. Certainly to you, important enough to come onto ATS and start a thread on.


And now putting words in my mouth... I didn't admit such thing. I know what I heard, I know who it was, I don't know what the context was.
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:10 PM
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"I was half listening to NPR this morning when suddently I heard Paul's voice. He said something about not considering an attack on x nation as an attack to the US and that's all I could make up"

therefore, I must be 100% angry with him because i'm not sure exactly what it is he said!!

LOL. at least know why you're mad in the first place.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:13 PM
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Silly boy....google is your friend...

NPR transcripts.
www.npr.org...



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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what he said in that interview is along the lines of his foreign policy im 99% sure of it. 30 years of constant ideals lends credence to that.

so by ignoring what the other members said about his foreign policy you basically screwed yourself to have to fight "trolls" as you like to call me.

i have a good socialist friend who constantly ridicules ron paul and his economic policy so if he ever said anything against his original ideals i would know because he would love to put a thorn in my side

5 years ago or 2 minutes ago it doesnt matter because what he said never changes
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:20 PM
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Excuse me DankKing, isn't that what I'm trying to do?


Wait. From the response you gave me, it doesn't sound like you're interested in what ATS has to say. Now you're all over the place.



I don't care what Paul said 5 years ago or how ATS members interpret that information,


Ok there's 2 problems with this, let me break them down.

#1 In quote 1 you said you were trying to get info from ATS (which you refuted from your response to me, but whatever) but then in this quote you plainly state that you don't care what ATS has to say about that info....


#2 You don't care what Paul has said 5 years ago? Are you SURE you're an ex Paul supporter?? I mean really?? You aren't aware of his 30 year track record? Are you not aware that his positions haven't changed unlike the other clowns? Just so we're clear. What Ron Paul said 5 years ago is exactly what Ron Paul is saying now.
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:23 PM
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Check...and mate



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Wookiep
#1 In quote 1 you said you were trying to get info from ATS (which you refuted from your response to me, but whatever) but then in this quote you plainly state that you don't care what ATS has to say about that info....



Again, putting words in my mouth. I'm not trying to get info, I'm trying to get someone to point me to a very specific comment Ron Paul said. If you all say Ron Paul policy is this and that, but Ron Paul says its something else, who do you think I will believe.



#2 You don't care what Paul has said 5 years ago? Are you SURE you're an ex Paul supporter?? I mean really?? You aren't aware of his 30 year track record? Are you not aware that his positions haven't changed unlike the other clowns?


I didn't support Ron Paul 5 years ago, I supported him this past month. The world changes and if you think what mattered 5 years ago still matters today you are dead wrong. For all I know Ron Paul may have changed his policy yesterday thus I only care about what he thinks today. But let me ask you, in your eyes, would it be a big mistake if he doesn't preach what he preached 30 years ago? So I want to find that transcript, to convince me I'm wrong.

And the guy who posted a link to NPR website, I'm not going to pay $3.95 for something that should be public information.
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:42 PM
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Well it's certainly entitled and arrogant of you to demand the quote from someone here...I put the direct link to the transcripts at your fingertips, and you poo poo on it....BTW, I'm a Girl



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:47 PM
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I'm not trying to get info, I'm trying to get someone to point me to a very specific comment Ron Paul said. If you all say Ron Paul policy is this and that, but Ron Paul says its something else, who do you think I will believe.


Pointing you to a specific comment Ron Paul said (which is INFO btw) requires more than "Hey Ron Paul said X about this but I couldn't hear it" C'mon!! What are you expecting here? Not only that but this garbled info you think you might have heard is making you re-consider your vote? Can you not see how that is laughable?? Put yourself in our position here.




For all I know Ron Paul may have changed his policy yesterday thus I only care about what he thinks today.


And I'm telling you those policies have never changed, but you don't want that info either, so look it up yourself. Even non-Paul supporters know this, it's common knowledge. You should really consider spending more time researching your candidates. Ron Paul is not the kind of candidate that you should vote for if you are not educated about his policies. I guess you won't be looking for that type of info here tho since you don't want it.




And the guy who posted a link to NPR website, I'm not going to pay $3.95 for something that should be public information.


Honestly Daniel, you're not giving us a whole lot to work with here. If you absolutely must know this knowledge about this X thing Paul said about X country, spend the Goddammed $3.65!
It's not like you're asking ATS for info or anything, anyway!
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:48 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
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Well it's certainly entitled and arrogant of you to demand the quote from someone here...I put the direct link to the transcripts at your fingertips, and you poo poo on it....BTW, I'm a Girl




What does it matter if I have NPR transcripts anyways if they turn out to beout of context. What you basically game me is a link that will charge me $3.99 but still give me a 50/50 chance of finding what I'm looking for.

I'm pretty sure they quoted Ron Paul, not interviewed him.
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:49 PM
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i might be a little crazy but i prefer a politician who doesn't flip flop on his policies especially when it comes to economic and foreign policy

the world may change yes but ideals remain the same. unless your newt gingrich



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:51 PM
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Originally posted by daniel_g

Originally posted by Destinyone
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Well it's certainly entitled and arrogant of you to demand the quote from someone here...I put the direct link to the transcripts at your fingertips, and you poo poo on it....BTW, I'm a Girl




What does it matter if I have NPR transcripts anyways if they turn out to beout of context. What you basically game me is a link that will charge me $3.99 but still give me a 50/50 chance of finding what I'm looking for.

I'm pretty sure they quoted Ron Paul, not interviewed him.
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You aren't looking for anything but an internet rumble...

You've been served ACCURATE info on a silver platter...all you want to do is bang on garbage cans....

PLUS...it's obvious you haven't a clue what a transcript is....it's word for word what was on the program.
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by DankKing420
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i might be a little crazy but i prefer a politician who doesn't flip flop on his policies especially when it comes to economic and foreign policy

the world may change yes but ideals remain the same. unless your newt gingrich


But that's the problem Dank. He doesn't know about Paul's 30 year non-wavering stances, but he doesn't want to find out about it here! Daniel is in a real pickle.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by Wookiep

Originally posted by DankKing420
reply to post by daniel_g
 


i might be a little crazy but i prefer a politician who doesn't flip flop on his policies especially when it comes to economic and foreign policy

the world may change yes but ideals remain the same. unless your newt gingrich


But that's the problem Dank. He doesn't know about Paul's 30 year non-wavering stances, but he doesn't want to find out about it here! Daniel is in a real pickle.


Dang...you mean we have to pull the binkie out of his mouth and spoon feed him



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by Destinyone

Originally posted by Wookiep

Originally posted by DankKing420
reply to post by daniel_g
 


i might be a little crazy but i prefer a politician who doesn't flip flop on his policies especially when it comes to economic and foreign policy

the world may change yes but ideals remain the same. unless your newt gingrich


But that's the problem Dank. He doesn't know about Paul's 30 year non-wavering stances, but he doesn't want to find out about it here! Daniel is in a real pickle.


Dang...you mean we have to pull the binkie out of his mouth and spoon feed him


I guess, but then we would be going totally off-topic and dealing with putting him to bed etc.. I just don't wanna deal with that tonight!



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 09:00 PM
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Agreed...think this thread is under the covers already....nity nite Danny boy....



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 09:01 PM
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daniel_g,

I'd quit now. Your intentions in starting this thread means nothing now because everyone (or the majority) has decided to pick apart your argument and the title of the thread instead of simply answering that they were either listening to npr or not at the time in question.

If I were you I wouldn't bother anymore. Somewhere along the line signals got crossed. Because you yourself said you were "half listening", you ended up getting "probable answers".

I'm now going to crawl back to the cave from whence I came. Notice I said cave, and not bridge. I'm not a troll. I'm more like the all-knowing hermit who says something smart, quite obvious, and not exactly helpful to anyone.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 09:02 PM
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i believe his original intent was to have ATS members find the particular NPR discussion where Ron Paul spoke so they could help turn him in the right direction. Unfortunatly we arn't a bunch of dogs fetching material so it didnt work.

then when members tried to explain what ron pauls foreign policy is to him (which in turn would have answered what was troubling him) he ignored them and responded to you,me and destiny which while helping him understand ron paul probably just pissed him off






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