David Wilcock & Benjamin Fulford (11-09-14) US Underground Bases Been Nuked, page 2
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reply posted on 31-12-2011 @ 12:11 PM by BO XIAN
reply to post by Mythkiller



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I ain't no expert in anything but I do know that dismissing something (because of the messenger) without investigation is the height of ignorance.

Truth can come from many places...it's up to us, upon investigation, to determine what we take on as truth.

Personally I dismiss nothing because thats all we really KNOW, what I mean to say is that at the public/sheeple level we really don't know what is going on in secret circles and it's best we collect all the crumbs of truth to see if they are palletable.


THANK YOU!
THANK YOU!
THANK YOU!
THANK YOU ENORMOUSLY.

I rarely see anything close to that mentioned on ATS or anywhere else. Yet, it has been my policy since at least 1962.

It's all puzzle pieces. That's all we can collect. Wisdom is to collect them and analyze them as well as we can.

ATS is *POTENTIALLY* a GREAT place with at least SOME bright folks and a great diversity with which to analyzie puzzle pieces.

But NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO . . . toooooo many brain dead, uninformed, clueless, willfully blind, rabidly narrow and biased sorts ABSOLUTELY INSIST on a pile of proven documents signed by every Supreme court justice and 10% of all the ranking scientists plus the heads of all the top Main Stream Lying Media . . . before they'll even consider it remotely a part of "true" reality . . . whatever that is.

Sheesh what an idiotic stance.

How LOGICAL is it that such levels of proven evidence about deliberately secret stuff--stuff folks have died over revealing even tiny bits of--HOW LOGICAL is it that such evidence will come with stacks of proof attached by locked a chain???

Gimme a break. Sheesh.

It seems to me that the ONLY AS WELL AS THE BEST WAYS TO DENY IGNORANCE

IS TO COLLECT AS MANY PUZZLE PIECES AS POSSIBLE AND ANALYZE THEM FROM ALL ANGLES BY ALL VIEWPOINTS . . . AND RANK THEM as to prbability of being true and as to importance. THE MORE THINKING OUT OF THE BOX IN SUCH A PROCESS, THE BETTER.

However, ATS seems to be ABSOLUTELY TYRANNICALLY *RULED* by an idiotic degree of

pretend pseudo-super-rationalism that doesn't accept anything

that isn't vetted by the Pope and bishops of the Religion of Scientism.

Sheesh.

Ah well, the slide toward hell and Armageddon is picking up speed more and more.

It will all be over before such immature idiots are dry behind the ears.

Sigh.

Fulford and company strike many folks as being super flakey. I don't think they are. As a psychologist I wouldn't rank them in the top 5% of flakiness.

HOWEVER, EVEN IF THEY WERE--My boss when I was acting Director of the University LIbrary's Special Collections Dept had the world's best private/personal collection of PRE-HITLER pamphlets, leaflets, posters etc. and he said that it was THE FLAKIEST GROUPS WHO *FIRST* AND MOST ACCURATELY predicted who Hitler really was; what HItler would become and what Hitler would do.

I've said such things for more than 10 years on 2 large forums . . . and I can't recall a single case of anyone even understanding, much less agreeing with that fact as a valid and important fact in guiding puzzle piece collecting and analysis in these END TIMES globalist plagued situations and this era. What ignorance!
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reply posted on 31-12-2011 @ 01:51 PM by NeoVain
reply to post by BO XIAN



Good post, that is exactly my stance of these issues also. The pieces to the puzzle brought to the table by Fulford and Wilcock are rarely echoed anywhere else, but after researching this for awhile, it is not hard to see why. Fulford has unique contacts in japan, he also speak fluent japanese so there is no wonder if he have unique info about these dragon societies etc. Also, from following wilcocks blog for over a year, as well as fulford and the kerry cassidy shows on project camelot pertaining too this matter, this is indeed a very interesting piece of the puzzle with plenty of evidence, that paints a larger picture from the "other side" so to speak. I would advice you to check out these guys abit more, Fulford has been ranting for a long time about this lawsuit that was "gonna happen" that nobody believed until it finally hit, 111 pages long and with plenty of interesting info, all valid.

Simply to much material here to be a hoax, methinks. But of course, most people do not have the ability or inclination to dig to deep in these matters, instead choosing to dismiss it as a hoax since it is "easier".
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reply posted on 31-12-2011 @ 02:30 PM by BO XIAN
reply to post by NeoVain




Simply to much material here to be a hoax, methinks. But of course, most people do not have the ability or inclination to dig to deep in these matters, instead choosing to dismiss it as a hoax since it is "easier".


INDEED.

However, I think life and particularly this globalist Marxist satanic mess is

sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo COMPLEX

with soooooooooo much smoke and mirrors and disinformation aplenty . . . and factions within factions within factions

it's hard to know what's true and not true.

I think the best we can do--and certainly should be doing--is to form a handful of probable hypotheses

and hold them all somewhat loosely and wait to see what life, future and God confirm.

At least with a handful of plausible, probable hypotheses, we are LESS likely to be taken utterly by surprise to a point of catatonia.

BTW, I want to congratulate you on not being seduced by the

STANDARD DOGMA OF ATS and other groups . . .

i.e. that RELIGION OF SCIENTISM hypocritical stance on

DOGMATICALLY LEANING OVER BACKWARDS TO AVOID A TYPE I ERROR

AUTOMATICALLY INSURING

THAT THEY WILL BE BLINDSIDED OR WORSE BY A TYPE II ERROR.

A TYPE I ERROR = saying SOMETHING is there when NOTHING is there.

A TYPE II ERROR = saying NOTHING is there when SOMETHING is there.

BOTH can be deadly.

And WHEN one avoids to an extreme one of the types of errors, IT AUTOMATICALLY FOLLOWS that one makes one's self virtually certain to be a victim of the opposite type error.

THAT'S JUST A SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLE that has been demonstrated over and over.

Yet the purportedly prissy-ly pseudo scientific pseudo-super rationalists haughtily

BLINDLY AND IGNORANTLY PRETEND that it's

MORE SCIENTIFIC to lean over backwards till they fall on their backs to avoid a TYPE I ERROR

seemingly ignorant that they have thereby made it virtually certain that they'll be skunked by a TYPE II ERROR.

Why has ALMOST NO ONE discussed that issue with me for 10+ years online--and the few that dared--seemed to be toooo ignorant and toooooo stubbornly willfully blind to discuss it rationally???

Mystifying.


reply posted on 20-2-2012 @ 12:33 PM by TheExopolitician
Originally posted by NeoVain
reply to
post by grey580



How do you know this? I have yet to see anything he says being debunked. I agree it all sounds very extreme, but that does not mean it cannot be true.

I´d rather dig for the truth, than dismiss certain things outright just because they do not sound "right" to someones world-view
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How did the digging go? Whatever happened to this DUMB "truth"? Something? Nothing?

Nothing.

There was nothing which is why you abandoned this thread/subject...just in time to skulk off and find the next set of Wilcock windblows.

Learn. It is the pretext of adulthood.

Don't be a tool of a tool.


reply posted on 27-2-2012 @ 09:42 AM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by MajorKarma



S&F

Found a more in depth video on this topic.



There is no description under this long video.

I suggest you download it and watch it in pieces.

Explains a lot of what's been going on and what is to come.

I'm 3/4 of the way through - very interesting.


reply posted on 27-2-2012 @ 11:45 AM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by KerryLynn



I had one.

If you recently had to update Real Player you have to go in and reconfigure your settings which my son did for me.

Maybe go directly to the video on You Tube and try to pull it in?


reply posted on 27-2-2012 @ 12:08 PM by KerryLynn
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to
post by KerryLynn



I had one.

If you recently had to update Real Player you have to go in and reconfigure your settings which my son did for me.

Maybe go directly to the video on You Tube and try to pull it in?


Thank you, luv ur avatar got my BF to dl the ut


reply posted on 27-2-2012 @ 12:46 PM by ofhumandescent
reply to post by KerryLynn



I know every friggin time I have to update RealTime my son has to update FireFox and do some other "configs"............maddening as hell isn't it.

Glad you could snag it.
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