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Thanks for sharing. One of the ways we make the world a better place is making the world smaller, and more relatable, with efforts like this.
It's a lovely country, by the way. A peaceful, welcoming country where you can safely get a taste of the real middle east.
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to post by Schkeptick
I understand how she can make the connection between the US and Israel as partners in killing Muslims, but how in the world did she come up with the idea that the US and Iran are partners in that killing?
If that part of the world believes the US, Israel, and Iran are opposed to Arabs, wouldn't it be fairly easy, diplomatically, to throw Iran under the bus and form a united front against them?
What effect does religion have in insulating Iran from Arab criticism? Can we portray Iran as heretical and enrage the Arabs against them?
I'm sorry for all the questions, but my ignorance about these things is remarkable.
Originally posted by arollingstone
reply to post by Schkeptick
I can't say I agree with the points your friend makes about the US and Iran working together.
But as my family is from the UAE - right on the Straight of Hormuz - I have to say I'm extremely concerned about the manner in which the US is handling the situation. Of course, this is currently a Cold War between the US and Iran - but it's one that could easily become a hot war.
Iran could drop its nuclear programme, but why should they? Ahmadinejad never threatened to wipe Israel off the map, he was misquoted. Iran has not attacked another nation for countless years.
On the other hand, the US is the only country to have ever dropped a nuclear weapon (in fact, two) on another country and has started so many wars in the past 100 years. Israel, meanwhile, acts like a victim but is the only country armed with nuclear weapons in the region. Not only that, but they persist in their illegal occupation and settlement building on Palestinian land, not to mention uprooting olive trees, annexing land through mini 'Berlin walls' and killing civilians on a regular basis. Now THAT'S aggressive behaviour.
The US could back off and have no reason not to. Why not focus back on North Korea or another proven aggressive nation? Or better yet, why not chill out a bit and just leave everyone alone?
It's another appalling example of ignorant, insecure, megalomaniac politicians meddling and putting a whole region at risk for the sake of saving face. They treat foreign affairs as a game of risk, the UK and France are just as bad. If its a matter of resources, well then sort out your own economy - introduce better austerity measures and seek compensation from the organisations responsible for this financial collapse.
We all should know the lies put against Iran are not true - whether it's Ahmadinejad being misquoted (or misrepresented as actually controlling Iran - when in fact power is divided between his supporters, those of the Ayatollah and the military) or exaggeration of Iranian nuclear capabilities, it's a sham. Iran will pose no threat to any other country in the region unless they feel they are forced to.
Iran may play a hand against Sunni regimes, but a US-backed study found no evidence of this. Meanwhile, the US has also been getting involved in Arab politics this year - but not against it's close allies, who remain unpunished. They backed Mubarak right until the moment they could not afford to anymore, then tried to take some sort of moral credit for his stepping down - not to mention much graver crimes.
The propaganda campaigns on both sides have been mounting in recent months and all indicators seem to point in one direction. Perhaps the two sides will resolve things, as neither can afford a war with one another, but not if neither backs down.
I'm sick of the military-industrial complex, bogus wars allowed by the US public and with Iran previously threatening to attack American interests in the Gulf if provoked militarily - now its personal. Why can't these warmongers just grow the hell up?
even with barbaric treatment to the messengers as well as continued raids and attacks upon the Muslim Arabs.
Today, we see a resurgence of the Persian empire in the body of the mortal that wear rags on his head and calls himself the leader of Iran, titular head of the Shia muslims. True Islam only seeks to worship and seek glory for our common Creator, known by many names across cultures, time and space.
Originally posted by hmdphantom
You are going to fail Insha-allah.edit on 6/1/12 by hmdphantom because: (no reason given)
What racism are you alluding to?
Look out into the arab world. Do you not see muslim brother killing fellow muslim brother each other today?
I have no respect for that persian leader over his past actions in our world and will never give him the sacred name of the Ghutrah upon his head, a respect that he does not deserves.
Regardless of what religion or ethnicity we come from, we are all humans, blood and love the same, and have only common asipirations in life. Every human life is precious and means something special to another called love, a divine gift by our common Creator.
Why should ONE leader, a closet persian infidel at that, through his unholy command, be allowed to subject millions of Iranian Muslims, Muslims worldwide, and Mankind to oppresion, repression, terrorism and the brink of war if not war itself soon?
AND FIGHT IN THE WAY OF ALLAH WITH THOSE WHO FIGHT WITH YOU, AND DO NOT EXCEED THE LIMITS, BECAUSE ALLAH DOES NOT LOVE THOSE WHO EXCEED THE LIMITS.
وَ اقْتُلُوهُمْ حَیْثُ ثَقِفْتُمُوهُمْ وَ أَخْرِجُوهُمْ مِنْ حَیْثُ أَخْرَجُوکُمْ وَ الْفِتْنَةُ أَشَدُّ مِنَ الْقَتْلِ وَ لا تُقاتِلُوهُمْ عِنْدَ الْمَسْجِدِ الْحَرامِ حَتّى یُقاتِلُوکُمْ فیهِ فَإِنْ قاتَلُوکُمْ فَاقْتُلُوهُمْ کَذالِکَ جَزاءُ الْکافِرینَ (191)
KILL THEM (THE IDOLATERS WHO AVOID NOT ANY CRIME) WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM; AND EXPEL THEM FROM WHERE THEY EXPELLED YOU. (FROM MECCA) TUMULT IS WORSE THAN SLAYING. AND DO NOT FIGHT WITH THEM AT THE SACRED MOSQUE, UNTIL THEY FIGHT WITH YOU IN IT. IF THEY FIGHT YOU (WITHIN THE PRECINCTS OF THE SACRED MOSQUE) THEN KILL THEM. SUCH IS THE RECOMPENSE OF THE UNBELIEVERS.
فَإِنِ انْتَهَوْا فَإِنَّ اللّهَ غَفُورٌ رَحیمٌ (192)
BUT IF THEY CEASED, ALLAH IS ALL-FORGIVING, THE COMPASSIONATE
وَ قاتِلُوهُمْ حَتّى لا تَکُونَ فِتْنَةٌ وَ یَکُونَ الدِّینُ لِلّهِ فَإِنِ انْتَهَوْا فَلا عُدْوانَ إِلاّ عَلَى الظّالِمینَ (193)
AND FIGHT THEM ON, UNTIL THERE BE NO MORE TUMULT, (IDOLATERY AND INVASION TO PEOPLE'S FREEDOM) AND THAT ALLAH'S RELIGION REIGNS SUPREME. THEN IF THEY CEASE (FIRE), FIGHT NONE BUT THE EVIL-DOERS.
Originally posted by hmdphantom
Putting Iranian empire against the Muslim Arabs sounds very racism to me.
Then calling the Iranian empire barbaric is the continuation of that path.
They are doing so because they are being manipulated. But it is clear who is manipulating them and what is the manipulation for. It is for safety and victory of Israel .
So , what are those actions ?
But I see some people specially in your govt don't think the same. Look at Iraq , Afghanistan , Hiroshima , Nagasaki , Vietnam and other countries history.
See how your govt used to help and spread mass killing. How it is backing Israel in Middle East.
You don't really know ?
AND FIGHT IN THE WAY OF ALLAH WITH THOSE WHO FIGHT WITH YOU, AND DO NOT EXCEED THE LIMITS, BECAUSE ALLAH DOES NOT LOVE THOSE WHO EXCEED THE LIMITS........