Pretty scary the it's a possible model for pushing laws all over about rainwater restriction. Also, maybe if China was not stealing water(as claimed), US states in drought and in danger may have less of a problem...

Originally posted by PrecogPsychicSensitive
Australian farmers who collect rainwater in their dams have to pay every year... its complete BS.. How can the government tax something they dont provide? Whats next? paying for the oxygen we breathe?

But PreCog, it is not next-- it's already here. They can't tax the oxygen we breathe, but the
NWO is legislating the taxation of what we EXHALE. Carbon Credits or you go to jail for
poisoning the air with carbon dioxide. At a fraction of a percent of the atmospheric volume
that greenhouse gas is supposedly a very nasty thing for the environment (in total disregard
of the fact plants breathe it and fart oxygen). But never the less THEY know better, and Lord
Christopher Monckton is a kook... that's why Al Gore won't debate the real issues with him.
But at this, I indeed wonder if it's possible one's brain can develop an itch like trigger finger?

This would make me very hot, as I actually have to pay my local water company "storm water runoff fee" . The fee is based on the amount of land on my property that covers grass/dirt. Any asphalt concrete or structures. So I have to pay for my rain not hitting the ground.

If I collect that, it's mine!

I just thought about the car dealer. He was probably boasting about his new green car wash and somebody, probably a rival knew someone to drop the hammer on ole greeny.

Lesson is : make it green and shutup. You will reap the savings. Monsters won't notice.

Originally posted by paleorchid13
I've seen this .....and all I have to say is good luck catching my educated ass .....

Politics, and bureaucratic crap ... is what makes this ethical ....
I have some colorful language for those that try and enforce this bull #

i couldn't have said it better. laws are in fact only enforceable if enough citizens feel they should be. when that tipping point comes closer to more people saying screw that, well then that law will be worthless.

i believe the old saying goes, you can only corner a dog so long before it bites you, and probably not in the ass.

What a load of poop!you cant collect rain because its not yours in the first place,ive never heard such crap in my life.How would the government like it if told them they cant breath in the air thats around them because it belongs to someone else.The people of the world should unite together and make a stand for what we believe in,which is free energy and a better government because this is fcuking terrible.

More than 10 years ago, I remember getting aggravated when a private company took over managing the public water in the California community I owned a house in. I think water should be controlled by the government, and not by a corporation with shareholders. I wouldn't be surprised when someone with the energy to dig up the information could piece together how corporations are behind this. The first time I heard about not being able to collect rainwater was also around the time I noticed that water management is being grabbed up by corporations for profit.

I think if the concept of human rights that some people have is legitimate, water and air are things that belong to us all.

That being said, let me tell you the real reason I decided to post here. With everything I read, stating what is wrong with the atmosphere, I ask myself if I really want the rainwater.

I suppose when my water has a govt serial number on it then they have something to say.

If your name is written on the side of your bucket the water belongs to you. do as you please.

The water wars are just ramping up. I live in a rural area. Everyone up here has a well for their drinking water. They put in their own wells, paid for by them. Maintained by them.

Several years ago, the government decided they should jump in and make sure our water was safe for us to drink. Now, this area is famous for Mama Nature's artesian aquifer riddled throughout the mountains here. Pure, sweet, no chemicals water.

Not only did they try to put meters on our wells, they also tried to force us to implement a system of of having our water tested. By that I mean, we would have to collect our own water in their government provided containers, and ship it to their facility to have it tested every 90 days. Oh forgot to mention, we would have to pay for this new service.

The backlash was immediate, and forceful. Needless to say, we are not forced to do what they want.....yet.

As ridiculous as this idea sounds.. maybe there is a valid reason for it, you have to always look at both sides of the story.

collecting water in barrels may not be the major concern. We need rainwater because of the water table, if that water is diverted or stopped, the consequences can be devastating.

one example of when i lived in France was a neighbour had a stream running through his property, he had all kinds of wildlife and plants thriving from this.. another neighbour in an adjacent property decided to build a huge pond which he diverted the water running from the stream (also running through his property) into his pond.

almost instantly neighbour A's stream had dried up, after some time the plants died and wildlife left, leaving a huge part of his land dry and barren. When he confronted neighbour B he was told to shove off and even contact with the local council was to no avail.


So sometimes when you look at the bigger picture there is a method to the madness.. having said that.. you have every right as a human being and resident of this planet to collect water and drink it.. as long as you dont divert huge amounts and disrupt the natural balance (only taking what you need) then it is your god given right..

Originally posted by icepack
maybe it has a logical reason, for example the rainwater is needed for a healthy groundwater level?

Its probably just one of those laws to prevent abuse. Probably came about because someone did something that took rights away from a neighbor.

Let me tell you - - - if you want to learn about annoying laws - - - get a neighbor from hell.

Old news.
Here in Germany you have to pay for the water that is raining on you. Dont believe me? You have to pay a fee for every square meter of your roof, your lawn and your garden. Silly? Yes.

The reason:
sewage purification plant needs financial help to proceed all those liters of rain

its also forbidden to use rainwater to wash your clothes and flush the toilet

Originally posted by emaildogs
This would make me very hot, as I actually have to pay my local water company "storm water runoff fee" . The fee is based on the amount of land on my property that covers grass/dirt.

I live in a flood irrigation area.

We have to pay a yearly water fee - - whether we use it or not. And if we do use more then allotted - - we pay for the extra. We also have a well.

But - - the canals have to be maintained - - and I'm on a mesa where the water has to be pumped up.

Some things are justifiable.

Ventura covered this in one of his Conspiracy Theory episodes......needless to say those didn't air for long, actually they were mysteriously diapering off of dvr's at one point

However, I have them all DL'd.and spread them to people on data sticks. They are seriously worth watching even if a we bit sensationalized....

They are also planning to tax the runoff.....so you can't collect it and will be billed for the amount that comes off you're property.

Bury you're collection unit and if someone comes knocking....bury them too.....(did I just say that???)