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It looks like you and undo are reading from different books, undo's verision fo the flood was local to the black sea....therefore could not have cause the formation of the grand canyon.
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I quote The grand canyon is a great example of Noahs flood. no it isn't.
geology.com...
It took millions of years to form. and before you post links to Christian websites which are flawed mine is a one made by and for real Geologists.
The flood was only a localized phenomena encompassing only the people of Noah, not the entire planet. That is what it says in my book.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by vogon42
It looks like you and undo are reading from different books, undo's verision fo the flood was local to the black sea....therefore could not have cause the formation of the grand canyon.
WOW!!!!!! That's an even bigger miracle than a worldwide flood!!!! So you're telling me there was a local flood that covered the mountaintops?
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I quote The grand canyon is a great example of Noahs flood. no it isn't.
geology.com...
It took millions of years to form. and before you post links to Christian websites which are flawed mine is a one made by and for real Geologists.
The flood was only a localized phenomena encompassing only the people of Noah, not the entire planet. That is what it says in my book.
If the Flood was local, why did Noah have to build an Ark? He could have walked to the other side of the mountains and missed it.
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I quote The grand canyon is a great example of Noahs flood. no it isn't.
geology.com...
It took millions of years to form. and before you post links to Christian websites which are flawed mine is a one made by and for real Geologists.
Really now? Because even local can mean something up to hundreds of km? Maybe there wasn't that much time you know?
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by vogon42
It looks like you and undo are reading from different books, undo's verision fo the flood was local to the black sea....therefore could not have cause the formation of the grand canyon.
WOW!!!!!! That's an even bigger miracle than a worldwide flood!!!! So you're telling me there was a local flood that covered the mountaintops?
Yep seems odd that If the Flood was local, the waters could rise to 15 cubits (8 meters) above the mountains.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by sHuRuLuNi
Really now? Because even local can mean something up to hundreds of km? Maybe there wasn't that much time you know?
There was a lot more time to build the ark that it would have taken to move out of the local area.
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I did look at all the websites another person had posted claiming the Grand canyon was caused by one single flood, they were all posted on Christian websites which have an interest in trying to prove the bible is right.
True you could say the same about all the geologists in the world who say it was formed over millions of years but I looked at the evidence provided from both sides and i used my brain to come to the conclusion that the geologists who say it is millions of years old are right.
just because you have found one geologist who says it was caused in one flood doesn't mean it is true.
look at the pennines in the UK they were formed due to the last ice age carving vast valleys etc with ice.
We see how they are made because we are seeing how they are made now, we can goto norway and see what ice/water is doing to the area. That is another way of proving what has happened.
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
I quote The grand canyon is a great example of Noahs flood. no it isn't.
geology.com...
It took millions of years to form. and before you post links to Christian websites which are flawed mine is a one made by and for real Geologists.
"Poisoning the Well" fallacy.
I guarantee you that you've never studied the young-Earth arguments, but are relying on the criticism of old-Earth Geologists. Can you tell me what arguments young-Earth, creation-believing scientists are in error about?
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by sHuRuLuNi
Really now? Because even local can mean something up to hundreds of km? Maybe there wasn't that much time you know?
There was a lot more time to build the ark that it would have taken to move out of the local area.
Read my post above.
Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by sHuRuLuNi
Wait so you will believe 2 of Plato's dialogues, Timaeus and Critias, which are the only existing written records which specifically refer to Atlantis for sufficient evidence, yet you will not believe the 5686 Greek manuscripts in existence today for the New Testament? That my friend is a Double Standard if ever I saw one.edit on 31-12-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)
Why is this a problem?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
Originally posted by sHuRuLuNi
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by sHuRuLuNi
Really now? Because even local can mean something up to hundreds of km? Maybe there wasn't that much time you know?
There was a lot more time to build the ark that it would have taken to move out of the local area.
Read my post above.
I did, if you made a vaild point I would have given you a star for it. But you're ignoring that God commanded Noah to build the arkand it was God who sent the rains and opened the floodgates of the deep.
Was God caught off-guard as well? Or was He an idiot and had Noah spend all that time building the ark when all He had to do was tell Noah to move??
Which one is it?
Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by sHuRuLuNi
Why is this a problem?
It's a HUGE problem. If death entered the world with the fall of man, how would there have been opportunity for evolution to produce what we see today by billions of years of natural selection and death?
When I came to write the paper on the Koongarra uranium deposit, it was at the request of the mining company who knew exactly where I stood. The paper was for a book on Australian ore deposits with an editor who had strict guidelines as to how the papers should be written. When I wrote the paper I had no option but to take the standard conventional terminology
Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by sHuRuLuNi
Better than any answer I could give him, great post.
6000 years heck we have things made by humans or our direct ancestors that are 2 million years old.
www.nytimes.com...
or do you want a bit closer in time?
23 thousand years ago
news.discovery.com...
Oh wait I forgot they were put there by God to test our faith
edit on 31-12-2011 by boymonkey74 because: (no reason given)