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If 911 is viewed as a crime instead of a terrorist attack, it becomes clear...

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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Alfie1

Who is "everyone else" ? and no, there wasn't " a simulation of precisely that" going on.



Oh, really? Where do you come from? are you George Bush, or his brother perhaps? do you say "nukular" too?

www.usatoday.com...




posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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Good post.


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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:20 PM
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what do you think would happen to this country, and the people in it if the truth about 9/11 came out, like if we found 100% proof (which I believe is there,(that final shred of proof we need) we just haven't uncovered it yet) that our government was in on it, and did this to us to profit. does anyone think that would trigger an immediate violent revolution?



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by gunshooter
what do you think would happen to this country, and the people in it if the truth about 9/11 came out, like if we found 100% proof (which I believe is there,(that final shred of proof we need) we just haven't uncovered it yet) that our government was in on it, and did this to us to profit. does anyone think that would trigger an immediate violent revolution?


No.

Like you said, the proof is there so there's no need to speculate on what the reaction would be.

Religion was the opiate of the masses before TV came along...4g phone and free-texting anyone?



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by gunshooter
what do you think would happen to this country, and the people in it if the truth about 9/11 came out, like if we found 100% proof (which I believe is there,(that final shred of proof we need) we just haven't uncovered it yet) that our government was in on it, and did this to us to profit. does anyone think that would trigger an immediate violent revolution?


Nope, most people would refuse to believe such a thing. 100 years ago, would have been a complete different story. As a people as a whole we are devolving, not evolving, into a MORE primitive species. This is the path were on, and I look around and nobody wishes to stop. Except a me and a couple of other people on the bus, who just because we stood up and asked the bus driver whether or not he knows where he's going, we get handcuffed and pushed to the back of the bus and labeles as crazies



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:25 PM
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Originally posted by gunshooter
what do you think would happen to this country, and the people in it if the truth about 9/11 came out, like if we found 100% proof (which I believe is there,(that final shred of proof we need) we just haven't uncovered it yet) that our government was in on it, and did this to us to profit. does anyone think that would trigger an immediate violent revolution?


Do you need that evidence to start that revolution?

Let me ask you, when Clinton went out of Office ... your mom and dad, and everyone was secured for life. Now, people are being run out of their homes and there are trillions of dollars in debt ... not to mention the billions of fake dollars, that were shipped to Iraq to start rebuilding the country ... without a single bridge to be built.

I have to ask ... what is wrong with you? weren't you the one, who was screaming "hitler" at Germany, and "stalin" at the Soviets? Aren't you the guy, who was screaming "justice" after 9/11?

Where is your sense of justice now?

Why aren't you demanding that those who caused deformed children to be born in iraq, to be hanged like the nazi soldiers?

Why aren't you giving the Iraqi people the freedom to hunt down and kill any american soldier who violated their country and murdered millions of their citizens, including leaving behind radioactive dust and deformed children?

Where is this "righteousness" and this "duty" and this "democracy" you have been yielling at the world, for 50 years?

Is the truth, that you believe that you are above all other men ... and that all other men, are gentiles and not jews ... and therefore do not deserve the same treatment as jews? (this a joke of irony).


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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by samkent
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Look at what's been happening to our very freedom at home.

Name one freedom you have lost that was guaranteed by our forefathers.


we have not technically lost any of our freedoms per say yet, but our freedoms that our forefathers put in place for us have been infringed upon steadily to condition us to not care if we lose them or not in the name of safety. and I believe someday soon we will lose some of our freedoms all together, and no one will care because of the conditioning. you must be able to see what they (TPTB) are trying to do, don't you?



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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HOLE LEE SMOKES.......

I just read the intro here at work (the one in the link), man I cant wait to get home, break out the popcorn and hot coco and dig in, this is going to be a good read indeed.

Oh, by the way is this copyrighted? I mean can I print this out and send a copy to my Dad?


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edit on 12/30/2011 by Alien Abduct because: spelling correction



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by comprehension
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Careful now, most Americans want to believe thousands of innocent victims perished on 911, and you know how people like their horror movies.


Your sarcasm, sucks.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:48 PM
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Originally posted by gunshooter
what do you think would happen to this country, and the people in it if the truth about 9/11 came out, like if we found 100% proof (which I believe is there,(that final shred of proof we need) we just haven't uncovered it yet) that our government was in on it, and did this to us to profit. does anyone think that would trigger an immediate violent revolution?


No, because it's only in the conspiracy mongor lexicon that "the government" is some single autonomous entity, like a supercomputer in the basement or or a disembodied brain sitting in a vat of fluid. In the real, non-conspiracy mongor world, the government is made of lots and lots and LOTs of people, from congressmen to unpaid interns fetching congressmen their coffee, and it's physcally, logically, and logistically impossible for EVERY person involved in the government to have been "in on it". The members of gov't who weren't in on it would conduct a witch hunt for the members of gov't who were in on it. This is becauase the gov't isn't comprised of people who march in single hive minded solidarity on their leaders' every whim. The real, non-conspiracy mongor world, everyone is really out for him/herself, and they will gladly hunt down such turncoats if it helped advance their own careers.

Ironically, your question only shows why the gov't WOULDN'T have been in on it- once the list of conspirators grew to beyond two or three people, there'd be no way to keep it secret. I suspect you know that, which is why you prefer to instead entertain these fantasies that the gov't is some single autonomous entity, like a supercomputer in the basement or or a disembodied brain sitting in a vat of fluid.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:49 PM
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Originally posted by mackey1224uk

Originally posted by comprehension
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Careful now, most Americans want to believe thousands of innocent victims perished on 911, and you know how people like their horror movies.


Your sarcasm, sucks.


And for my first exhibit...



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:50 PM
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your close but then you have to go back to 1993, and see the events at the WTC before that 1993 was the turning point, 2001 was the cake mix, the "P" was the frosting and the NDAA 2012 is the candle.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:54 PM
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If the investigation were conducted like a normal police investigation, it looks very different. If it were a RICO case, the question qui bono or who benefits is the first way to point fingers towards the guilty parties. Obviously, no one in Afghanistan or Iraq has benefited in any way from this. None of the real people, at least, Halliburton is raking in billions off the war along with plenty of other vultures.



Amen to that. The preponderance of evidence of controlled demolition and prior knowledge itself is overwhelming alone yet the buck don't stop there. But follow the blood money and it is pretty damning and blatantly obvious who participated either directly or by accomplice.

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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:56 PM
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Originally posted by samkent
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Look at what's been happening to our very freedom at home.

Name one freedom you have lost that was guaranteed by our forefathers.


1. Our right to a fair trial.
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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 02:59 PM
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The Gov is made up of men and women that are greedy and blood thirsty, as well as controlling. they no longer sever the people but think the people are to serve them, do as they say or else, NDAA 2012 Sub Sec D says this, or could be interpreted that way, to think other wise is just having your head stuck in the sand.


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posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 03:00 PM
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Thanks for this thread and the information packed within, CaptChaos.

I'll be delving into it later, but just skimming over it, I find it to be quite powerful evidence.

Reading over the posts in this thread (and reading certain profile pages), something else is also becoming painfully clear...



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Sigurd
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On Christmas Eve in 1741, David Nitschmann and Count Nicolaus von Zinzendorf, leading a small group of Moravians, founded the mission community of Bethlehem along the banks of the Monocacy Creek by the Lehigh River in the colony of Pennsylvania. They named the settlement after the town of Bethlehem in Judea, the birthplace of Jesus. Originally it was a typical Moravian Settlement Congregation, where the Church owned all the property. Until the 1850s, only members of the Moravian Church were permitted to lease land plots in Bethlehem. The historic Brethren's House, Sisters' House, Widows' House and Gemeinhaus (Congregation House) with the Old Chapel are remnants of this period of communal living.

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Eugene Grace, President of Bethlehem Steel Corporation.

The city is the location of Pennsylvania's largest casino, the Sands Casino Resort Bethlehem, located on the former Bethlehem Steel property.

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2nd link.....Bankrupt in 2001...sold off company to another company who sold it to non us owners so us has no say in that company anymore.

Pretty much sounds like they did the clean up job or had something to do with the building then once they were done they "went bankrupt" and disappeared.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 03:04 PM
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Yea but that was half assed and you know it.



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Okay, I'd say we have pretty much nailed the motive, now let's contemplate opportunity.

Is it true that Neal Bush's company was in chrage of security for the WTC complex?

If that is true, I think we have made a great case.

Too bad no US court will touch this case with a ten foot pole...



posted on Dec, 30 2011 @ 03:21 PM
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NORAD had drills of jets as weapons


In my Fire department have drills all the time in various buildings

Now if that building catches fire does that mean we started it....?


Problwm in absence of specific information can not do everything - wasn't until after 2nd plane that everyone
realized was deliberate attack

By then too late as all the aircraft involved were airborne



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