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Originally posted by TupacShakur
reply to post by hooper
True, that's where the body part could have come from, that initial explosion. Maybe later I'll look up the exact numbers, I'm a little too lazy right now lol, but if I remember correctly there were several hundred bodies that could not be located in any way whatsoever.
Assuming they were disintegrated, along with the other bodies that left trace parts behind like little bone fragments, except to a slightly higher degree, what percentage of the people within the tower would that be? And would that percentage account for the amount of people in the section of the tower of the initial plane crash and initial contact between the top/bottom section of the towers that began the collapse?edit on 30-12-2011 by TupacShakur because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by CaptChaos
And if were treated like a case of mass murder, which it was, then motivation is only an interesting foot note. The minds of mass murders do not work on a rational basis therefore motivation is irrelevant.
Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
reply to post by Alfie1
From the COMMITTEE members themselves -- read my post just above, here's a LINK
In his own words he's saying this -- it's not this little blogger's conspiracy theory.
If I recall correctly, there were also body parts found on the rooftops of buildings several hundred feet away. How the hell does gravity alone do that? It doesn't
Construction workers near the World Trade Center discovered 74 more bone fragments on a damaged skyscraper slated to be torn down later this year, officials said Thursday
Most of the bone fragments discovered over the weekend were found mixed with gravel that had been raked to the sides of the roof of the former Deutsche Bank building, which suffered extensive damage when the twin towers collapsed on Sept. 11, 2001.
Earlier this year, workers in the building found four additional human body parts, and they found 10 additional bone fragments on the roof last fall. In the most recent discovery, workers retrieved 82 samples, 74 of which proved to be human remains that will undergo DNA testing, Borakove said.
EMT RICHARD ZARRILLO Vesey near Broadway
Captain Nahmod and I were running down Vesey Street stepping over airplane pieces, several bodies and whatnot. There was what looked like the front wheel assembly of an airplane. Unknown the size of the plane that had hit, it just looked like it was one pair of wheels on an assembly, pieces of metal with rivets in them, a few body parts scattered around.
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EMS ROGER MOORE body parts on West below Liberty
WHILE WE WERE WALKING WE NOTICED THREE BLOCKS AWAY FROM THE TRADE CENTER THAT THERE WERE BODY PARTS SCATTERED ALL OVER THE ROADWAY AND THAT THERE WERE POLICE OFFICERS TRYING TO SAFEGUARD THE BODY PIECES. Q WERE THEY CIVILIANS OR YOU THINK THEY WERE FROM THE AIRCRAFT? A. UNKNOWN
Our government was warned in advance that there would be a terrorist attack, but they not only ignored those warnings, they lied about it and said they had no foreknowledge.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by TupacShakur
Our government was warned in advance that there would be a terrorist attack, but they not only ignored those warnings, they lied about it and said they had no foreknowledge.
There's always warnings about attacks. The key is specifics. Would you have guessed they would have used planes???
One of the greatest feats of civilization was when a minority of sociopaths and psychopaths managed to convince the sane majority to emulate their behavior; it’s been downhill for humanity ever since.
Civilization as we know it is the construct of psychopaths; this is why today we call mass murder “war”, and mass murderers “war heroes”. We exalt our leaders who are able to kill women and children across the world while keeping a stiff upper lip about it, and even in our entertainment we idolize people who are able to fake emotions and pretend they are someone else; while most of our video games require our children to perform more and more psychotic acts. We’re trained from birth to be psychos.
The hierarchical structure of what we call civilization is represented in the pyramid we all know so well, with only the small percentage at the top, the psychopaths, able to see the whole picture. This pattern is repeated in the military world, as it is in the corporate world, as it is in the religious world; the people who can emulate a sociopath, ie, someone who has no empathy for others, will rise to the top. The science that studies this phenomenon is called Ponerology.
en.wikipedia.org...
I have little patience left for folks who are unable to accept the preceding paragraphs; to me they are simply little psychopaths running around copying the bigger psychopaths they see on TV. That group of barely functioning sociopathic nutcases is the reason we’re in the place we are now, amazingly 10 years after 911.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by TupacShakur
There's always warnings about attacks. The key is specifics. Would you have guessed they would have used planes???
Originally posted by bjarneorn
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by TupacShakur
There's always warnings about attacks. The key is specifics. Would you have guessed they would have used planes???
Uh doh .... terrorists ... hijack planes ... hmmm ... that is the most idiotic question I've read yet.
Are you related to George Bush, apparantly he had the same though ... couldn't guess they'd use planes. But apparently everyone else did ... weren't they doing a simulation of precisely that.
Originally posted by Alfie1
reply to post by GoodOlDave
Actually, I thought the poster, if he came up with anything at all, would refer to David Griffin who has retracted his allegation that Boeing 757's didn't have airfones on 9/11.
Originally posted by samkent
reply to post by TupacShakur
Our government was warned in advance that there would be a terrorist attack, but they not only ignored those warnings, they lied about it and said they had no foreknowledge.
There's always warnings about attacks. The key is specifics. Would you have guessed they would have used planes???
NORAD, in a written statement, confirmed that such hijacking exercises occurred. It said the scenarios outlined were regional drills, not regularly scheduled continent-wide exercises. "Numerous types of civilian and military aircraft were used as mock hijacked aircraft," the statement said. "These exercises tested track detection and identification; scramble and interception; hijack procedures; internal and external agency coordination and operational security and communications security procedures."
Originally posted by karen61057
reply to post by CaptChaos
Too bad the attacks were not performed for any kind of gain but were performed to terrorize the people of the United States. That is why they are called terrorist.
ter·ror·ism
[ter-uh-riz-uhm] Show IPA
noun
1.
the use of violence and threats to intimidate or coerce, especially for political purposes.
2.
the state of fear and submission produced by terrorism or terrorization.
3.
a terroristic method of governing or of resisting a government.
Math Tutoring @Ma
According to USA Today, yes they even had a drill that very day if you can believe that coincedense
Originally posted by bjarneorn
Uh doh .... terrorists ... hijack planes ... hmmm ... that is the most idiotic question I've read yet.
Are you related to George Bush, apparantly he had the same though ... couldn't guess they'd use planes. But apparently everyone else did ... weren't they doing a simulation of precisely that.
October 16-23, 2000: NORAD Exercise Includes Scenarios of Attempted Suicide Plane Crashes into UN Headquarters in New York
The North American Aerospace Defense Command (NORAD) practices scenarios based around suicidal pilots planning to deliberately crash stolen aircraft into the United Nations headquarters—a skyscraper in New York. The two scenarios are practiced on October 16 and October 23 as part of NORAD’s annual command post exercise called Vigilant Guardian. All of NORAD, including its Northeast Air Defense Sector based in Rome, New York, participates in this exercise. [US Congress. Senate. Committee on Armed Services, 8/17/2004; Arkin, 2005, pp. 545; GlobalSecurity (.org), 4/27/2005]
September 9, 2001: NEADS Exercise Includes Scenario with Terrorist Hijackers Targeting New York
Personnel at NORAD’s Northeast Air Defense Sector (NEADS) practice their responses to a simulated plane hijacking in which terrorists plan to blow up a hijacked airliner over New York City. The scenario is part of the annual NORAD training exercise Vigilant Guardian. [9/11 Commission, 2004; Spencer, 2008, pp. 3]
Army Command Center at the Pentagon Planned to Hold Exercise in Week After 9/11 Based on a Plane Hitting the WTC
Army officers at the Pentagon were planning a training exercise that would take place less than a week after 9/11 and that would, extraordinarily, be based around the scenario of a plane crashing into the World Trade Center. Preparations for the exercise were being made about a week before September 11.
The existence of the planned exercise was revealed by Major General Peter Chiarelli, who on September 11, 2001, was the Army's director of operations, readiness, and mobilization. In that position, which he had moved into about a month before 9/11, Chiarelli was in charge of current operations in the Army Operations Center (AOC) at the Pentagon.
In the wake of the French intelligence report (see August 22, 2001) on Zacarias Moussaoui, FBI agents in Minneapolis, Minnesota, are “in a frenzy” and “absolutely convinced he [is] planning to do something with a plane.” Agent Greg Jones tells FBI headquarters that Moussaoui might “fly something into the World Trade Center.” [Newsweek, 5/20/2002; US Department of Justice, 11/2004, pp. 153
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by litterbaux
According to USA Today, yes they even had a drill that very day if you can believe that coincedense
Well, NORAD and the rest of the military have drills every day. No coincidence there. There is n
o evidence they had any drills on 9/11 involving hijacked aircraft being used as suicide missiles.