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Originally posted by VitriolAndAngst
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by VitriolAndAngst
I think I understand the source of so much of your vitrol - you are deeply invested in your very own set of facts. A engine a mile away? Mid air break up? Maybe if you stuck to the facts, rather than making up your own conspiracy friendly reality, you would feel a less anxious about the whole situation.
Depends on WHICH official story you read and when, I suppose.
Is the official story now ONLY a collision with the ground, or do they talk about it breaking up and THEN slamming into the ground. SOMETHING has to explain the debris found in other areas while the main impact site was mostly a small crater and disintegrated plane.
Forgive me if I'm not commenting on the OFFICIAL description of events -- I'm going by the story prior to 2003, before they REFINED it.
>> Google about the plane engine found over a mile away -- that's a pretty big BOUNCE for an impact with the ground.
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
I posted this video on the previous page but it appears that you guys missed it, so I'll post it again here.
video.google.com...
Please watch and then let me know if this mystery of one of flight 93's engines being found over a mile away might be explained by the fact that it was shot down by Lt. Col. Rick Gibney, of the "Happy Hooligans" Air Command of North Dakota (who obviously didn't get the memo to stand down for "drills" that day), being given an award for his heroics in the video. (He truly is a hero, as he probably prevented flight 93 from hitting the Capitol, which would have enabled G Dubya to declare himself Dictator.)
Honestly, can anyone look at the plane-shaped hole that was dug out of the ground in Shanksville, with barely enough debris in it to fill up a single dump truck, and say that they see a 747?
Compare those pics with the debris at the Pentagon. A few guys carted off just about all of it by hand in about 20 minutes.
Now look at the painstaking reconstruction of Flight 800 at a hangar in Brookhaven Long Island. Don't the "aircraft" involved in 911 deserve the same investigation?
Not if you don't want the truth being discovered and you have the power to cover it up.
What kind of drugs are people taking?
What kind of Kool-Aid are they drinking?edit on 4-1-2012 by SimontheMagus because: addition
Originally posted by GenRadek
I'd like to know where you got all that nonsense from first. What was the person(s) that created this crap smoking when they came up with all this BS about engines amile away and 747s crashing? You have a lot of work to do in getting the facts straightened out.
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
And of course you completely ignored the point of the whole post, which was to point out that flight 93 was shot down, and you attack the trivial details. This is typical. Has the government changed its official story, or are they still dishing out the "Let's Roll" nonsense?edit on 4-1-2012 by SimontheMagus because: omission of a wordedit on 4-1-2012 by SimontheMagus because: (no reason given)edit on 4-1-2012 by SimontheMagus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by GenRadek
There is NO evidence of a shoot down. NONE.
Originally posted by dillweed
reply to post by GenRadek
If there's anyone who needs to get their facts straght, it's you. We all know where you stand regarding the official 'fairy tale'. Obviously, you admit the said engine was found away from the crash site, and 300 yards is an awfully long way for it to bounce. Keep sticking up for the OS, it helps us.
Originally posted by SimontheMagus
Originally posted by GenRadek
There is NO evidence of a shoot down. NONE.
Here... maybe the abridged version might help.... 58 minutes is tough even for me to sit through.....
video.google.com...
Oh and I forgot.... can you explain how a cellphone works at 38,000 feet?edit on 4-1-2012 by SimontheMagus because: addition
Radek, have you ever stopped to ask yourself, out of the hundreds, maybe thousands of factors that are being questioned about 911, why is it that there isn't a single aspect of the OS that manifests itself clearly as what it is purported to be and doesn't have to be "debunked"? (As if you guys debunk anything, which you don't, but only in your own fantasy worlds where the laws of physics don't exist.)
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by SimontheMagus
Radek, have you ever stopped to ask yourself, out of the hundreds, maybe thousands of factors that are being questioned about 911, why is it that there isn't a single aspect of the OS that manifests itself clearly as what it is purported to be and doesn't have to be "debunked"? (As if you guys debunk anything, which you don't, but only in your own fantasy worlds where the laws of physics don't exist.)
Another way to say this is "as long as I can type sentences with question marks at the end then the official story is in question". Sorry, but no physical laws were broken, nothing is question and this whole matter is now in the history books unless, of course, you can present affirmative proof that something is not correct. Not suspicion, not "doubt" and not questions. Affirmative.
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by v1rtu0s0
Really, how could you? You want to ask questions relative to national security policy, fine. You want to ask questions about what we are going to do, going forward, to not let ourselves be victims of terrorism, fine. But you really think asking "questions" about controlled demolitions, holograms and faked crash sites is going to get you anywhere?
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by CaptChaos
Adding 10 million square feet of office space to an island that already had plenty of empty office space....
Yes, because we are all aware of the legendary low price of real estate in Manhattan. Really, who do you think you're fooling with this crap?
Originally posted by vipertech0596
reply to post by SimontheMagus
Col Rick Gibney, was decorated for flying to Montana, picking up the New York State Head of Emergency Management in an F-16D and flying him back to New York. Not for shooting down Flight 93.
Now, if you want to go with the shoot down theory, please tell us exactly what weapon was used? (so I can show you just how wrong you are)
At the same time, the high winds that buffeted the area over the last few days have dislodged additional airplane parts – seat cushions, wiring, carpet fragments and pieces of metal – from trees near the crash site. "It's all aircraft parts, no human remains," Miller said. "We've collected them in 10 recycling bin-sized containers and eventually we'll turn them all over to United." –Wallace Miller